Pentax kit lenses


ronyzmbow

Link Posted 02/03/2013 - 10:28
A friend of mine, a keen Nikon photographer for many years, pointed my attention to the fact that are three Pentax 18-55 kit lenses

Apart from the latest WR version which is water resistant, i do not know why there are 3 versions of the same lens?

How is IQ and the optical performance of all three version? Are they different? According to Pentax Forums web site I can see that sharpness is different - is it true?

johnriley

Link Posted 02/03/2013 - 12:38
The original was supplied with the K10D but when the K20D needed higher resolution this was upgraded to the MkII version.

The WR version is weather resistant, to go with WR bodies. The DA-L version is a lighter mount, no QuickShift and no supplied lenshood, which reduces cost. It is however the same optically as MkII/WR.

That makes four versions!
Best regards, John

takuman

Link Posted 02/03/2013 - 13:13
Just for info, I still have an SMC DA 3.5 - 5.6 18-55 AL which came with my first DSLR (K100D) one of the first on sale in UK and the lens is excellent. K100 also came with Tamron 70-300 1:2 Macro. Both in regular use on both the K100 and K5, and give good results. Should add they came as kit lens.

Regards John
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HowardJ

Link Posted 02/03/2013 - 14:17
I too still have an SMC DA 3.5 - 5.6 18-55 AL which came with an IST* DL2 which I bought from Jessops about 5 years ago. Always been happy with it. Now attached my K10.

Cheers,

Howard
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Hardgravity

Link Posted 02/03/2013 - 22:22
Don't believe anybody who tells you the Pentax 'kit' lenses are poor.

As a pro lens they lack a little,but as a general 'do it all' lens they're probably the best lenses supplied as standard with any make.

I still rate my MKII as a very good lens.
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judderman62

Link Posted 02/03/2013 - 22:32
agree with m'learned friend above - they also feel a million times better than the Canon one - I shudder when I use my cnaon one - optically it is also good but it just feels so ....ewwww
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 02:12
I would never call the kit lens poor. I just find it drab and unexciting. Mostly, you get what you pay for
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

beachboy2

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 07:17
I took a WR kit lens to Antarctica recently for use when I could not avoid salt spray etc. Also took a new Sigma 17-50 F2.8 HSM. The Sigma is certainly my new "kit" lens. The Pentax WR was quite disappointing.

K5, K20D, Bigma, Sigma EX 105, Sigma EX 10-20, Sigma EX 28-70 F2.8, Sigma Ex 1.4TC,
Pentax 135 F3.5, Pentax 30mm F2.8 , Pentax 50mm F1.7, Pentax 55mm F1.8,
Super Taks: 35mm F3.5, 50mm F1.4, 135mm F3.5, 200mm F4
Vivitar TX 200mm F3.5,Vivitar (Komine)135mm f2.8, Vivitar 2X TC, Vivitar T4 400mm F6.3
Tamron SP 35-80,80-210 F3.8, Helios 44M, Mir 1B 37mm F2.8, Jupiter 9 85mm F2, Chinon 28mm F2.8, 3M-5A 500mm F8 etc etc

K10D

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 08:10
beachboy2 wrote:
I took a WR kit lens to Antarctica recently for use when I could not avoid salt spray etc. Also took a new Sigma 17-50 F2.8 HSM. The Sigma is certainly my new "kit" lens. The Pentax WR was quite disappointing.

I bought the Sigma f/2.8 HSM whilst waiting for a repaired or replacement 16-50 Pentax lens. It's a great optic. How was your 18-55 Pentax disappointing?

Best regards

ronyzmbow

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 09:01
K10D wrote:
beachboy2 wrote:
I took a WR kit lens to Antarctica recently for use when I could not avoid salt spray etc. Also took a new Sigma 17-50 F2.8 HSM. The Sigma is certainly my new "kit" lens. The Pentax WR was quite disappointing.

I bought the Sigma f/2.8 HSM whilst waiting for a repaired or replacement 16-50 Pentax lens. It's a great optic. How was your 18-55 Pentax disappointing?

Best regards

here are some samples taken this week with the older version of the kit lens - great Pentax colors and very sharp images!







beachboy2

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 09:02
K10D wrote:
beachboy2 wrote:
I took a WR kit lens to Antarctica recently for use when I could not avoid salt spray etc. Also took a new Sigma 17-50 F2.8 HSM. The Sigma is certainly my new "kit" lens. The Pentax WR was quite disappointing.

I bought the Sigma f/2.8 HSM whilst waiting for a repaired or replacement 16-50 Pentax lens. It's a great optic. How was your 18-55 Pentax disappointing?

Best regards

Just lacked the sharpness. In bright light and stopped down I can get reasonable photos. An earlier non WR kit lens I have is better.
cheers
bb2

K5, K20D, Bigma, Sigma EX 105, Sigma EX 10-20, Sigma EX 28-70 F2.8, Sigma Ex 1.4TC,
Pentax 135 F3.5, Pentax 30mm F2.8 , Pentax 50mm F1.7, Pentax 55mm F1.8,
Super Taks: 35mm F3.5, 50mm F1.4, 135mm F3.5, 200mm F4
Vivitar TX 200mm F3.5,Vivitar (Komine)135mm f2.8, Vivitar 2X TC, Vivitar T4 400mm F6.3
Tamron SP 35-80,80-210 F3.8, Helios 44M, Mir 1B 37mm F2.8, Jupiter 9 85mm F2, Chinon 28mm F2.8, 3M-5A 500mm F8 etc etc

womble

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 09:14
My impression having read quite a few similar threads in the past is that there is wide sample variation with the kit lenses. I have always been happy with mine and never bothered to upgrade. Others have swapped to something else almost immediately. Also, don't forget that sample variation within the camera body can make a difference too. I cannot find the link now but there was a very interesting article written by someone who runs a camera/lens hire company about how the same lens can shine on one body but look dire on another.

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bjolester

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 10:10
I have currently two DA 18-55mm WR. The one I got with my K20D is very sharp and I have used it a lot. The newer one, that came with my K-5 kit, is quite different and less sharp. I second the notion about sample variation amongst these kit zooms.

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Cuchulainn

Link Posted 03/03/2013 - 10:11
The latest article on lens variations is here:
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/10/the-limits-of-variation

It also links to an earlier article. It's well worth a read!
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