Pentax K5lls First Impressions
Posted 11/02/2013 - 20:53
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Fletcher8 wrote:
I could be wrong but higher iso's also appear to be cleaner than the original K5. The clarity of image quality and sharpness is very apparent on the back of the screen, when zooming in you can clearly see a big difference.
Could that be down to the improved Rear LCD screen though?
I could be wrong but higher iso's also appear to be cleaner than the original K5. The clarity of image quality and sharpness is very apparent on the back of the screen, when zooming in you can clearly see a big difference.
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Posted 11/02/2013 - 21:05
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I don't remember seeing any references to the improved SD card door in any marketing !! Could be a big selling point - I can see the product shot now - a close up of the SD door all covered in frost, ice & raindrops - and it still opens and closes.
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Posted 11/02/2013 - 21:06
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Smeggypants wrote:
Possibly. However, I have just loaded an image onto the Mac Book Pro (not Retina) and the image still looks a lot cleaner. Perhaps it is just over excitement having a new camera? The image quality in terms of improvement from the original K5 can clearly be seen though, and my living room is not the most photogenic of living rooms.
Fletcher8 wrote:
I could be wrong but higher iso's also appear to be cleaner than the original K5. The clarity of image quality and sharpness is very apparent on the back of the screen, when zooming in you can clearly see a big difference.
Could that be down to the improved Rear LCD screen though?I could be wrong but higher iso's also appear to be cleaner than the original K5. The clarity of image quality and sharpness is very apparent on the back of the screen, when zooming in you can clearly see a big difference.
Fletcher8.
Posted 11/02/2013 - 22:53
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Does any one know if the improved focusing applies to auto focus lenses only, or is there a benefit to manual focusing with manual lenses as well???
Thanks in advance...
Thanks in advance...
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Posted 12/02/2013 - 00:03
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Defragged wrote:
Does any one know if the improved focusing applies to auto focus lenses only, or is there a benefit to manual focusing with manual lenses as well???
Since your hand/eye combination does the focus with these lenses, the only way to improve it is by buying better glasses and exercising your fingers.
Does any one know if the improved focusing applies to auto focus lenses only, or is there a benefit to manual focusing with manual lenses as well???
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Posted 12/02/2013 - 00:35
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Maybe cach in focus is quicker, will check tomorrow...
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Posted 12/02/2013 - 08:34
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pentaxian450 wrote:
Actually less of a stupid question than you suggest. If the low light autofocus is so good, is the focus confirmation when using manual focus lenses in low light equally good? Often it can be difficult to focus manually in low light so it would be nice to know if the focus confirmation can be used to help.Defragged wrote:
Does any one know if the improved focusing applies to auto focus lenses only, or is there a benefit to manual focusing with manual lenses as well???
Since your hand/eye combination does the focus with these lenses, the only way to improve it is by buying better glasses and exercising your fingers.Does any one know if the improved focusing applies to auto focus lenses only, or is there a benefit to manual focusing with manual lenses as well???
Best wishes, Kris.
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Posted 12/02/2013 - 09:26
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Could that be down to the improved Rear LCD screen though?
That was the first thing I checked! I compared previously capture K5 Mk1 images on the K5IIs screen.Could that be down to the improved Rear LCD screen though?
The screen shows more contrast and better wide angle viewing, but the images from the mk1 were as they were
Will try and get some sample shots up soon!!
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Posted 12/02/2013 - 18:10
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womble wrote:
Actually less of a stupid question than you suggest. If the low light autofocus is so good, is the focus confirmation when using manual focus lenses in low light equally good? Often it can be difficult to focus manually in low light so it would be nice to know if the focus confirmation can be used to help.
Best wishes, Kris.
PRECISELY! Actually less of a stupid question than you suggest. If the low light autofocus is so good, is the focus confirmation when using manual focus lenses in low light equally good? Often it can be difficult to focus manually in low light so it would be nice to know if the focus confirmation can be used to help.
Best wishes, Kris.
Thank you Kris, you understood my question and moreover proffered a sensible reply!
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Posted 13/02/2013 - 10:06
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My replacement K5IIs is back from SRS now - very quick turnaround, much appreciated. I've just had a wander around Exeter Cathedral and the coast at Beer, Axmouth and Lyme, mix of indoor, overcast and sunny conditions.
Early thoughts (I'm comparing with a K20D, so...)
Much better low-light performance - acceptable at 12800, sharp at 1600
Quicker autofocus (tried with DA17-70 and DA55-300 so far)
Slightly sharper at ISO100/200 - particularly for fine detail (on 24" screen)
Better exposure - fewer images underexposed, seems to show more detail in shadow
Ergonomics slightly better - e.g. I like the ISO button
Marginally brighter viewfinder
Not quite so natural feel in my long hands - though the RH grip gives better confidence for picking up one-handed
Not keen on the rubber cover for the ports
Like the start-up dust removal - doesn't sound like the K20's machine-gun
Exposure compensation in AV mode doesn't clear on turning the camera off - probably a case of getting used to it rather than a problem.
Overall the process of composing and taking a shot seems quicker and 'cleaner' than with the K20, more like (and even slightly better than) the Canon 7D.
Basically very pleased so far - seems an excellent camera.
Early thoughts (I'm comparing with a K20D, so...)
Much better low-light performance - acceptable at 12800, sharp at 1600
Quicker autofocus (tried with DA17-70 and DA55-300 so far)
Slightly sharper at ISO100/200 - particularly for fine detail (on 24" screen)
Better exposure - fewer images underexposed, seems to show more detail in shadow
Ergonomics slightly better - e.g. I like the ISO button
Marginally brighter viewfinder
Not quite so natural feel in my long hands - though the RH grip gives better confidence for picking up one-handed
Not keen on the rubber cover for the ports
Like the start-up dust removal - doesn't sound like the K20's machine-gun
Exposure compensation in AV mode doesn't clear on turning the camera off - probably a case of getting used to it rather than a problem.
Overall the process of composing and taking a shot seems quicker and 'cleaner' than with the K20, more like (and even slightly better than) the Canon 7D.
Basically very pleased so far - seems an excellent camera.
K5IIs, K10D & ME Super with FA24-90, DA16-85, DA55-300, misc old primes; Olympus EM10 & Panasonic LX15.
Posted 13/02/2013 - 15:37
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Stanovich wrote:
My replacement K5IIs is back from SRS now - very quick turnaround, much appreciated. I've just had a wander around Exeter Cathedral and the coast at Beer, Axmouth and Lyme, mix of indoor, overcast and sunny conditions.
Early thoughts (I'm comparing with a K20D, so...)
Much better low-light performance - acceptable at 12800, sharp at 1600
Quicker autofocus (tried with DA17-70 and DA55-300 so far)
Slightly sharper at ISO100/200 - particularly for fine detail (on 24" screen)
Better exposure - fewer images underexposed, seems to show more detail in shadow
Ergonomics slightly better - e.g. I like the ISO button
Marginally brighter viewfinder
Not quite so natural feel in my long hands - though the RH grip gives better confidence for picking up one-handed
Not keen on the rubber cover for the ports
Like the start-up dust removal - doesn't sound like the K20's machine-gun
Exposure compensation in AV mode doesn't clear on turning the camera off - probably a case of getting used to it rather than a problem.
Overall the process of composing and taking a shot seems quicker and 'cleaner' than with the K20, more like (and even slightly better than) the Canon 7D.
Basically very pleased so far - seems an excellent camera.
It also works My replacement K5IIs is back from SRS now - very quick turnaround, much appreciated. I've just had a wander around Exeter Cathedral and the coast at Beer, Axmouth and Lyme, mix of indoor, overcast and sunny conditions.
Early thoughts (I'm comparing with a K20D, so...)
Much better low-light performance - acceptable at 12800, sharp at 1600
Quicker autofocus (tried with DA17-70 and DA55-300 so far)
Slightly sharper at ISO100/200 - particularly for fine detail (on 24" screen)
Better exposure - fewer images underexposed, seems to show more detail in shadow
Ergonomics slightly better - e.g. I like the ISO button
Marginally brighter viewfinder
Not quite so natural feel in my long hands - though the RH grip gives better confidence for picking up one-handed
Not keen on the rubber cover for the ports
Like the start-up dust removal - doesn't sound like the K20's machine-gun
Exposure compensation in AV mode doesn't clear on turning the camera off - probably a case of getting used to it rather than a problem.
Overall the process of composing and taking a shot seems quicker and 'cleaner' than with the K20, more like (and even slightly better than) the Canon 7D.
Basically very pleased so far - seems an excellent camera.
I'm a regular changer of lenses on shoots in the field and regurlarly had to clean the sensor on my K20D. Ihad my two K-5s for 2 years now and I've NEVER once had to clean the sensors. Highly impressed. The approaching ultrasonic method of cleaning is much better than the Low frequency chugga chugga of the K20D
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Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 13/02/2013 - 17:44
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Smeggypants wrote:
It also works
I'm a regular changer of lenses on shoots in the field and regurlarly had to clean the sensor on my K20D. Ihad my two K-5s for 2 years now and I've NEVER once had to clean the sensors. Highly impressed. The approaching ultrasonic method of cleaning is much better than the Low frequency chugga chugga of the K20D
That's good to know, I had the same problem with my K20D - particularly annoying if it picked up dust when I was away for a week or two without the computer.
It also works
I'm a regular changer of lenses on shoots in the field and regurlarly had to clean the sensor on my K20D. Ihad my two K-5s for 2 years now and I've NEVER once had to clean the sensors. Highly impressed. The approaching ultrasonic method of cleaning is much better than the Low frequency chugga chugga of the K20D
K5IIs, K10D & ME Super with FA24-90, DA16-85, DA55-300, misc old primes; Olympus EM10 & Panasonic LX15.
Posted 13/02/2013 - 18:20
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Defragged wrote:
Thank you Kris, you understood my question and moreover proffered a sensible reply!
Ok tried my mkii today wi my 400mm f/4 and the focus locks on just as quick as an af lens, soon as the shot is in focus beep, not like the mki where you have to step backwards and forwards.womble wrote:
Actually less of a stupid question than you suggest. If the low light autofocus is so good, is the focus confirmation when using manual focus lenses in low light equally good? Often it can be difficult to focus manually in low light so it would be nice to know if the focus confirmation can be used to help.
Best wishes, Kris.
PRECISELY! Actually less of a stupid question than you suggest. If the low light autofocus is so good, is the focus confirmation when using manual focus lenses in low light equally good? Often it can be difficult to focus manually in low light so it would be nice to know if the focus confirmation can be used to help.
Best wishes, Kris.
Thank you Kris, you understood my question and moreover proffered a sensible reply!
I will post some results tomorrow..
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Posted 13/02/2013 - 20:44
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cabstar wrote:
Ok tried my mkii today wi my 400mm f/4 and the focus locks on just as quick as an af lens, soon as the shot is in focus beep, not like the mki where you have to step backwards and forwards.
I will post some results tomorrow..
Thank you very much for that it's greatly appreciated. An upgrade isn't exactly cheap so there need to be sufficient benefits to justify the outlay. Looks and sounds promising so far!Ok tried my mkii today wi my 400mm f/4 and the focus locks on just as quick as an af lens, soon as the shot is in focus beep, not like the mki where you have to step backwards and forwards.
I will post some results tomorrow..
Thanks again and I'll look forward to your results....
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Anyway, only had a quick play tonight when I finished work, but here are some of my initial findings:
The screen of the K5lls is a lot better than the original K5, certainly less reflection and just seems a lot crisper and clearer. A very noticeable improvement.
Focus is better than original K5, improvements in low light and of the lenses I have tried so far all seem to be spot on focus wise, it would appear none of them require any fine tune focus adjustment.
I could be wrong but higher iso's also appear to be cleaner than the original K5. The clarity of image quality and sharpness is very apparent on the back of the screen, when zooming in you can clearly see a big difference.
The SD card door has been improved and the card is also easier to remove compared to the original K5.
Despite the cost of upgrading I am very, very pleased so far. When I get the chance to get out with the K5lls and take some images I will post them and provide some feedback in relation printing on our Canon Pixma Pro 9000 ll.