Pentax FF - a poll

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Don
Posted 26/05/2011 - 02:20 Link
here is a ff killing argument... what if Pentax were to steal an idea from Hasslehoff, or whatever it is they call themselves, and use the sensor shift to "multiply" the pixel count in the k5 for studio shooting? stacking multiple shots with slight movements of the sensor between shots...link giving say a 64 or 128 mb file out of the camera for still life shots?

then take it a step further and add the "Pixel Multiplier" effect with the "HDR" effect for a feature set that no other d-slr on the market can copy... Canikon don't have sensor shift stabilization, so they are left out of this game...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 26/05/2011 - 02:25
Smeggypants
Posted 26/05/2011 - 03:07 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
Sour grapes, folks. Pentax already have a head start over the Nikon and Canon FF line ups. They have the 31, 43 and 77 FA ltds - lenses which are 'suboptimal' on APSC.
I've got no sour grapes. I'm not bothered about FF. You can always want a bigger sensor even if you had a Digital Plate Camera. you hve to draw the line somewhere.

My K-5s take fantastic pics. These pics wouldn't be any better taken with a FF DSLR.

The quality of the pic is down to my snapping technique. Something I aim to improve with practise. FF ain't in that equation.

I look forward to the K-3 and ven better high ISO performance, but in the mean time loving the K-5s
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K10D
Posted 26/05/2011 - 11:15 Link
ChrisA wrote:
Oggy wrote:
With the dearth of long lenses FF is a complete non starter for me.
I totally agree.

300mm is already not long enough at airshows - the last thing I want is for it to be only 200mm.
OK then, I'll ask. How does a 300mm lens on a cropped sensor body become a 200mm lens on a FF or 35mm body?

Best regards
Too far from a shore.
Gwyn
Posted 26/05/2011 - 11:22 Link
K10D wrote:
ChrisA wrote:
Oggy wrote:
With the dearth of long lenses FF is a complete non starter for me.
I totally agree.

300mm is already not long enough at airshows - the last thing I want is for it to be only 200mm.
OK then, I'll ask. How does a 300mm lens on a cropped sensor body become a 200mm lens on a FF or 35mm body?

Best regards
It doesn't. It remains a 300mm of course, but a true 300mm as opposed to one where the crop factor makes it seem to be a 450mm lens.
karma mechanic
Posted 26/05/2011 - 11:23 Link
It doesn't really... the effect of a real 300mm lens on a crop body is that of a 450mm lens on a FF body.

If you've got used to using a 300mm on a crop sensor then on FF the same lens will give a wider FOV, so might feel like a 200mm in comparison, in the sense that it doesn't have the reach Obviously a real 300mm lens when used on FF gives the effect of a real 300mm.

**Edit** Note to self: type faster
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Edited by karma mechanic: 26/05/2011 - 11:30
johnriley
Posted 26/05/2011 - 12:37 Link
Don't forget it's the format that gives different fields of view, not the lens. A 300mm lens is always a 300mm lens.
Best regards, John
MarkTaylor
Posted 26/05/2011 - 18:12 Link
I voted "Maybe once the price decreases" but I would also add that said FF model would have to offer a significant benefit over top-of-the-range ASP-C models like the K-5, and by that I mean a more significant benefit than FF cameras offer right now.

That may seem like a very big proviso, but I don't think it's beyond the bounds of probability that the technology used in the K-5's sensor to improve ISO/noise handling could reap even larger benefits when applied to FF sensors... otherwise I wouldn't be interested in FF at all.

Primarily my interest lies in the fact that now I've demonstrated to my own satisfaction that I can get decent images of moving targets (people) in obscenely low light conditions with reasonably fast shutter speeds and without resorting to flash, and I really like the results. Anything enabling me to take this technique even further would naturally be of interest.

Unless I get an unprecedented pay rise in the near future though, £2,000 is likely to be firmly out of bounds.

[Oh, and if Pentax are listening I'd also like better low-light AF, please, regardless of the format ]
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Edited by MarkTaylor: 26/05/2011 - 18:20
Gwyn
Posted 26/05/2011 - 18:19 Link
I voted not interested at all.
I have no desire to buy a FF camera and then have to buy yet more lenses to be able to use with it. Just as well because I wouldn't be able to afford to anyway - no matter how low the price dropped.
I fully expect the K-5 to be my last camera. It does all I want and more.
Edited by Gwyn: 26/05/2011 - 18:20

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