Pentax FF - a poll
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Posted 29/04/2011 - 14:22
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thoughton wrote:
Or downgrade further to an APS-C Pentax.Cayman wrote:
I think it depends on what your lens line up looks like - if mostly DA lenses then probably not worth pursuing FF. All but one of my lenses are FF so I would be keen to get my hands on a Pentax FF body if the price is similar to the 5DII/D700. I am in agreement with Kris though - I feel no need to upgrade my K20 to a K5 (although the K5 does have better high ISO performance this is not something I need).
I thought you had a 645D? Why would you 'downgrade' to a full frame Pentax? I think it depends on what your lens line up looks like - if mostly DA lenses then probably not worth pursuing FF. All but one of my lenses are FF so I would be keen to get my hands on a Pentax FF body if the price is similar to the 5DII/D700. I am in agreement with Kris though - I feel no need to upgrade my K20 to a K5 (although the K5 does have better high ISO performance this is not something I need).
Or really downgrade to a 4/3 Pentax
Where on earth is the logic or reason?
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Posted 29/04/2011 - 14:30
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K10D wrote:
Or really downgrade to a 4/3 Pentax
Where on earth is the logic or reason?
Best regards
Pentax does not have a full frame camera. where is the logic and reason behind some peoples constant complaining? You don't hear Subaru owners whining for want of a big block v8, do you? There are a lot of muscle car owners that won't bother challenging a Subaru wrx with it's little 4 banger... or a Lotus with it's little four banger... thoughton wrote:
Or downgrade further to an APS-C Pentax.Cayman wrote:
I think it depends on what your lens line up looks like - if mostly DA lenses then probably not worth pursuing FF. All but one of my lenses are FF so I would be keen to get my hands on a Pentax FF body if the price is similar to the 5DII/D700. I am in agreement with Kris though - I feel no need to upgrade my K20 to a K5 (although the K5 does have better high ISO performance this is not something I need).
I thought you had a 645D? Why would you 'downgrade' to a full frame Pentax? I think it depends on what your lens line up looks like - if mostly DA lenses then probably not worth pursuing FF. All but one of my lenses are FF so I would be keen to get my hands on a Pentax FF body if the price is similar to the 5DII/D700. I am in agreement with Kris though - I feel no need to upgrade my K20 to a K5 (although the K5 does have better high ISO performance this is not something I need).
Or really downgrade to a 4/3 Pentax
Where on earth is the logic or reason?
Best regards
I wish I was taller, but is there any logic or reason in arguing with my parents about it?
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Posted 29/04/2011 - 14:38
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With the dearth of long lenses FF is a complete non starter for me.
Posted 29/04/2011 - 15:16
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Don wrote:
Or really downgrade to a 4/3 Pentax
Where on earth is the logic or reason?
Best regards
Pentax does not have a full frame camera. where is the logic and reason behind some peoples constant complaining? You don't hear Subaru owners whining for want of a big block v8, do you? There are a lot of muscle car owners that won't bother challenging a Subaru wrx with it's little 4 banger... or a Lotus with it's little four banger... K10D wrote:
Or downgrade further to an APS-C Pentax.thoughton wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="Cayman"]I think it depends on what your lens line up looks like - if mostly DA lenses then probably not worth pursuing FF. All but one of my lenses are FF so I would be keen to get my hands on a Pentax FF body if the price is similar to the 5DII/D700. I am in agreement with Kris though - I feel no need to upgrade my K20 to a K5 (although the K5 does have better high ISO performance this is not something I need).
I thought you had a 645D? Why would you 'downgrade' to a full frame Pentax? [quote:3496ace15f="Cayman"]I think it depends on what your lens line up looks like - if mostly DA lenses then probably not worth pursuing FF. All but one of my lenses are FF so I would be keen to get my hands on a Pentax FF body if the price is similar to the 5DII/D700. I am in agreement with Kris though - I feel no need to upgrade my K20 to a K5 (although the K5 does have better high ISO performance this is not something I need).
Or really downgrade to a 4/3 Pentax
Where on earth is the logic or reason?
Best regards
I wish I was taller, but is there any logic or reason in arguing with my parents about it?[/quote]Too true Don. Those that want a Pentax FF (I used to)should consider an alternative brand (I did).
There's no pleasing some people is there.
I've now had two years of FF use and never looked back. Just imagine it as K5 quality (but 18 months before the K5) with a larger sensor and a full compliment of same brand lenses. Sounds too good to be true doesn't it. Hi ISO, Low noise, huge bright viewfinder and fast glass to boot, hell, you even get shift lenses that work properly, fast accurate AF, an unbelievable flash system and second to none support and service.
We've never had it so good.
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Too far from a shore.
Posted 04/05/2011 - 16:12
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It would have to be:
1. Less than £1200.
2. Not too much larger/heavier than the K7 and not as large & heavy as the Canon 5D mk2.
3. There would have to be a decent range of full frame lenses available from Pentax to match it (the biggest stumbling block).
1. Less than £1200.
2. Not too much larger/heavier than the K7 and not as large & heavy as the Canon 5D mk2.
3. There would have to be a decent range of full frame lenses available from Pentax to match it (the biggest stumbling block).
Posted 04/05/2011 - 18:26
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I voted on price. As much as FF go, Pentax is synonymous with APS-C, and in my opinion, with good reason to do so.
Posted 04/05/2011 - 18:27
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Mike-P wrote:
I would eventually buy one if it had the ability to use my DA lenses (as per Nikon D700) but with enough megapixels to make it worthwhile to do so. I think the D700 is around 12mp and using a crop lens brings the output down to around 5/6.
Yeah i migh consider it if it could do that because i almost only have DA lenses and i ain't planning to change everything... hell i could do that now and get a Nikon D700 so no need to wait...I would eventually buy one if it had the ability to use my DA lenses (as per Nikon D700) but with enough megapixels to make it worthwhile to do so. I think the D700 is around 12mp and using a crop lens brings the output down to around 5/6.
But one aspect i really like with APS-C and what Pentax is doing is the size of the camera, the K5 and K7 have so many features and are so easy to carry around an FF system would take up alot more space
Maybe the getting a 645D beside it would be a better option, because you actually gain something instead of only a little bit.
Posted 07/05/2011 - 08:10
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Anvh wrote:
But one aspect i really like with APS-C and what Pentax is doing is the size of the camera, the K5 and K7 have so many features and are so easy to carry around an FF system would take up alot more space
Maybe the getting a 645D beside it would be a better option, because you actually gain something instead of only a little bit.
+1
But one aspect i really like with APS-C and what Pentax is doing is the size of the camera, the K5 and K7 have so many features and are so easy to carry around an FF system would take up alot more space
Maybe the getting a 645D beside it would be a better option, because you actually gain something instead of only a little bit.
Cheers Jules...
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My viewfinder is 576,000,000 pixels.
My other viewfinder is 5.76,000,000.
www.exaggeratedperspectives.com
Posted 07/05/2011 - 09:24
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Oggy wrote:
With the dearth of long lenses FF is a complete non starter for me.
I totally agree. With the dearth of long lenses FF is a complete non starter for me.
300mm is already not long enough at airshows - the last thing I want is for it to be only 200mm.
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Pentax K-3, DA18-135, DA35 F2.4, DA17-70, DA55-300, FA28-200, A50 F1.7, A100 F4 Macro, A400 F5.6, Sigma 10-20 EXDC, 50-500 F4.5-6.3 APO DG OS Samsung flash SEF-54PZF(x2)
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Pentax K-3, DA18-135, DA35 F2.4, DA17-70, DA55-300, FA28-200, A50 F1.7, A100 F4 Macro, A400 F5.6, Sigma 10-20 EXDC, 50-500 F4.5-6.3 APO DG OS Samsung flash SEF-54PZF(x2)
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Posted 07/05/2011 - 14:59
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A tough one.
Yes FF would be nice, but......
It would have to be stunning to exceed the performance of the K-5, and we all know that the K-5 outperforms that current default choice FF camera - the Canon 5D mk2.
Pentax have a dearth of FULLY compatable lenses for full frame (only the FA limiteds and the three macros) the rest are either not useable or "sort of" compatable.
The market for reasonably priced FF cameras is tough to break. Look at Sony and the A900. It could not break the dominance of CaNikon and was quietly dropped leaving the cheaper A850 to stay in the market.
A FF will be bigger than the K-5 due to the electronics needed, in fact it would be a similar size to the A700 and 5D.
So, Yes, it would be nice, but the hard economical fact is it would not be worth Pentax getting into that arena. And anyway with the K-5 and 645D performing like they do, being stunning cameras themselves, would Pentax want to anyway?
Yes FF would be nice, but......
It would have to be stunning to exceed the performance of the K-5, and we all know that the K-5 outperforms that current default choice FF camera - the Canon 5D mk2.
Pentax have a dearth of FULLY compatable lenses for full frame (only the FA limiteds and the three macros) the rest are either not useable or "sort of" compatable.
The market for reasonably priced FF cameras is tough to break. Look at Sony and the A900. It could not break the dominance of CaNikon and was quietly dropped leaving the cheaper A850 to stay in the market.
A FF will be bigger than the K-5 due to the electronics needed, in fact it would be a similar size to the A700 and 5D.
So, Yes, it would be nice, but the hard economical fact is it would not be worth Pentax getting into that arena. And anyway with the K-5 and 645D performing like they do, being stunning cameras themselves, would Pentax want to anyway?
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Posted 07/05/2011 - 18:00
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Enough talk about FF with if Pentax would design a mount specially for their APS-C camera's they are now using the K-mount which was designed for a larger format so the camera should be able to get even smaller and maybe compete with the evil camera's...
Stefan
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Posted 07/05/2011 - 19:00
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So if Pentax were to introduce a FF camera then they should also introduce proper and excellent lenses to go with it, shouldn't they?!!!
Aadil.
Aadil.
Posted 07/05/2011 - 21:35
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Pentaxophile wrote:
Sour grapes, folks. Pentax already have a head start over the Nikon and Canon FF line ups. They have the 31, 43 and 77 FA ltds - lenses which are 'suboptimal' on APSC.
But those lenses also fit on Canon though
Sour grapes, folks. Pentax already have a head start over the Nikon and Canon FF line ups. They have the 31, 43 and 77 FA ltds - lenses which are 'suboptimal' on APSC.
Stefan
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
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