P shift in "P"/"SV" mode - how do you know?

Just working my way through the K20D settings....I'm looking through the options in "P" & "sv" mode for the dials and it gives you the choice to change the Program Line. If you choose to do this though how can you tell which Program Line option is set?

thanks

simon

[I deleted my first reply because I'm not sure what you mean now]

Are you asking about the choice of Program Lines (High Speed, Depth, MTF), or Hyperprogram where you can effectively switch to shutter or aperture priority with the e-dial?

Simon is saying P and SV mode Iceblinker so that means the Program Lines (High Speed, Depth, MTF)
You simply need to remember it.

I think your first answer covered it...I wanted to know how, if I set the front dial to allow changes to the program line, how I could be sure which Program line option the camera was in once I'd moved the front dial a few times. I had a quick look but couldn't see anything obvious - it just seemed strange that you could change the program line quickly with the front dial but had no way of knowing which "mode" it was set too

thanks

Simon

Simon i've the K10D so it might be different.

Here the dial that has the P-shift change prefer default balance so to say. You can see that the dial effects the f-number this the same with all program lines, when you press the green button it will go back to the default value (balance) of that mode.

Normal - the camera will try to get the optimum aperture and shutterspeed
High Speed - camera will try to get the fastest shutterspeed
Depth - camera tries to have the lowest f-number
MTF- camera tries to use the sharpest aperture

With the K10D and da*50-135 and using mtf it use f/4 as default and not f/2.8 but i can set the number to f/2.8 so basically shift the balance of the programline and keeping -1.5 stops overall

I think you're misinterpreting the manual, Simon.

The choice of Program Line (High Speed/Depth/MTF) is only changed via the menu setting. The dials never affect that, only can shift the program to use a different shutter speed or aperture.

Reading the manual there really isn't much, if any, information. I noticed when going through the custom settings - you have the option to set the fron dial to "program shift" which I assume means changing the "program line setting.

To be honest I don't think I've ever used the "P"/green setting anyway, I'm just interested in all the options available to me

thanks

simon

Just to clarify, Program Shift doesn't mean changing the Program Line. It means shifting the program result, for example from f4 160th to f4.5 125th.

This is different from the hyperprogram function that switches you to aperture or shutter priority.

Thanks for clearing that one up Pete, shame as I thought the idea of being able to change the program line setting using a dial was pretty good - not that I'd probably have used it though

Simon