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Robin128
Posted 13/04/2009 - 08:43 Link
There are a lot of experts on here....well, here's your starter for ten...

How should one pronounce...

BOKEH

Boke-aay? boke-uh?....blurry bits?



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Gwyn
Posted 13/04/2009 - 09:36 Link
Bo-kay. My son's Japanese (ex)girlfriend pronounced it that way so I'm guessing it's right. Even though in Japanese vowels are normally short for some reason, I assume because it isn't a proper Japanese word she the vowels are long.
Anvh
Posted 13/04/2009 - 10:05 Link
Gwyn wrote:
Bo-kay. My son's Japanese (ex)girlfriend pronounced it that way so I'm guessing it's right. Even though in Japanese vowels are normally short for some reason, I assume because it isn't a proper Japanese word she the vowels are long.
It trully is, so far as I know it means unsharpness (onscherpte).
You can of course check that with her, it would be nice if you could do that
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Gwyn
Posted 13/04/2009 - 10:11 Link
It used to be written Boke and then it was pronounced with short vowels - Bock-uh but the spelling was changed along with the pronunciation over the years. Bock-uh is still acceptable though.
Anvh
Posted 13/04/2009 - 10:20 Link
Thank you Gwyn
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Hardgravity
Posted 13/04/2009 - 11:24 Link
I'll go for blurry bits!

As for how it should be pronounced....

... I haven't a clue.
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MGraley
Posted 13/04/2009 - 11:41 Link
Did anyone see the programme "Keeping Up Appearances"?
Edited by MGraley: 13/04/2009 - 11:41
Darkmunk
Posted 13/04/2009 - 12:03 Link
I've never had to say it
But in my head, I say: bockay (with a 'c') mainly because I don't want it so sound like a bunch of flowers.

I understood it was a made up word originating in Japan.
Sdeve
Posted 13/04/2009 - 13:26 Link
A better question might be, why say it at all?

I have a sneaking suspicion that it is an 'in' word, first used to indicate that the user is a 'serious' photographer, and somewhat above the common herd. I never once heard that word in my 35mm days, even when I was at my most earnest.
George Lazarette
Posted 13/04/2009 - 19:46 Link
It's a word we Pentaxians take seriously because Pentax lenses are considered to have exceptionally good bokeh. It's something to do with Pentax lens designers being photographers too, rather than copier engineers.

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Robin128
Posted 13/04/2009 - 20:14 Link
Thanks for all your replies.



Rob
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Anvh
Posted 13/04/2009 - 20:30 Link
Sdeve wrote:
A better question might be, why say it at all?

I have a sneaking suspicion that it is an 'in' word, first used to indicate that the user is a 'serious' photographer, and somewhat above the common herd. I never once heard that word in my 35mm days, even when I was at my most earnest.
What other word would you have for bokeh?
Unsharpness, blur, fuzzy, out of focus, it just doesn't sound as a good thing while with bokeh you think about something positive.
A good bokeh is also very smooth and as least distracting as possible and emphasizing the subject.

You're indeed right that you didn't heared it in the "old days" since the word didn't excist before 1996
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Edited by Anvh: 13/04/2009 - 20:31
Haworth
Posted 14/04/2009 - 22:36 Link
Sorry to come late to this thread but only just seen it.

My (Japanese) wife has just informed me it should really be spelt 'boke', and pronounced with the 'o' the same as that in 'hot', and the 'e' the same as that in 'help'.

S'pose spelling it with the 'h' on the end stops us saying it to rhyme with 'poke'.

Apparently it's also a verb 'bokeru' or 'bokemas' - to blur - ,just as an added bit of trivia.

Hope that helps clarify.
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davidtrout
Posted 14/04/2009 - 22:40 Link
As someone born in Newcastle on Tyne and who spent most of his life living and working in, or within a few miles of, the city my instinct is to pronounce it 'buckie.'
david
Edited by davidtrout: 15/04/2009 - 16:04
Haworth
Posted 14/04/2009 - 22:51 Link
davidtrout wrote:
As someone born in Newcastle on Tyne and who spent most of his life living and working in, or within a few miles, of the city my instinct is to pronounce it 'buckie.'
david
.....which is actually prettly damn close to the Japanese pronunciation David!
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Edited by Haworth: 14/04/2009 - 22:53

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