Nikon is going EVIL
Posted 10/07/2010 - 19:54
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I think EVIL is a nice bridge between DSLR and point-n-shoot. I don't mind that they exist, personally. The more options, the better!
Posted 10/07/2010 - 20:25
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I like the patent for a cover over the sensor when you change lens.
The more mysterious thing is - why has it taken 10 years of DSLR's for someone to come up with this?: It wasn't so much of an issue with 35mm SLR's because you moved-on to the next frame, and with Film you have a camera assistant with a can of compressed air...but with digital its spawned a whole industry for keeping sensors clean (as I've found out to my cost...no the artic butterfly still hasn't arrived... waves fist vaugely at SRS, hope my work pictures yesterday came out ok haven't dared look at them yet...)
Oh, sat next to someone on the tube with a D700+Grip getting from job 1 to job 2... It seemed to be a bit of jewellery to go with his expensive rings and necklace - certainly wasn't using it to take any pictures... I knew it was a D700 because the strap said so in HUGE letters...
The more mysterious thing is - why has it taken 10 years of DSLR's for someone to come up with this?: It wasn't so much of an issue with 35mm SLR's because you moved-on to the next frame, and with Film you have a camera assistant with a can of compressed air...but with digital its spawned a whole industry for keeping sensors clean (as I've found out to my cost...no the artic butterfly still hasn't arrived... waves fist vaugely at SRS, hope my work pictures yesterday came out ok haven't dared look at them yet...)
Oh, sat next to someone on the tube with a D700+Grip getting from job 1 to job 2... It seemed to be a bit of jewellery to go with his expensive rings and necklace - certainly wasn't using it to take any pictures... I knew it was a D700 because the strap said so in HUGE letters...
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Posted 10/07/2010 - 20:37
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Flossie, the shutter is actually closed when you've not pressed the release button with (D)SLR so no need for a cover over the sensor because only when you press the shutter dust can go onto the sensor.
Sigma has solved this problem by placing a filter in the lens mount on the camera so no dust can go inside the body to begin with.
It could be the new Nikon might use an electronic shutter so that might explain the special cover to protect the sensor.
Sigma has solved this problem by placing a filter in the lens mount on the camera so no dust can go inside the body to begin with.
It could be the new Nikon might use an electronic shutter so that might explain the special cover to protect the sensor.
Posted 10/07/2010 - 20:47
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Anvh wrote:
Flossie, the shutter is actually closed when you've not pressed the release button with (D)SLR so no need for a cover over the sensor because only when you press the shutter dust can go onto the sensor.
Really? so what's this great gapeing hole that sucks up dust/pollen/dirt/hairs/dandruff then...Flossie, the shutter is actually closed when you've not pressed the release button with (D)SLR so no need for a cover over the sensor because only when you press the shutter dust can go onto the sensor.

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Sigma has solved this problem by placing a filter in the lens mount on the camera so no dust can go inside the body to begin with.
Hmm, oh thought that what was the Nikon patent was all about, then again if its a US Patent prior art isn't a consideration anyway...
Sigma has solved this problem by placing a filter in the lens mount on the camera so no dust can go inside the body to begin with.
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Posted 10/07/2010 - 20:57
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That's the lens mount not the sensor.
The shutter is placed just before the sensor so you need to move the mirror up to see it properly.
If you don't believe me about the shutter resting position do a 2 second delay with your lens off.
With the two second delay the camera will flip the mirror up and you can see the shutter in action.
Sigma has done it different, it's really just a filter instead of a cover that moves away when the lens is on.
It's a filter that cuts UV and IR light and you can remove it if you want to do such kind of photography, quite smart if you ask me.

The shutter is placed just before the sensor so you need to move the mirror up to see it properly.
If you don't believe me about the shutter resting position do a 2 second delay with your lens off.
With the two second delay the camera will flip the mirror up and you can see the shutter in action.
Sigma has done it different, it's really just a filter instead of a cover that moves away when the lens is on.
It's a filter that cuts UV and IR light and you can remove it if you want to do such kind of photography, quite smart if you ask me.

Posted 10/07/2010 - 21:37
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yes i know technically the shutter is back there...but practically you need a cover at the front so crap can't get inside when you take a lens off.
In fact, with about 2 seconds thought I can come up with an Iris-shaped cover mechanical mechanism attached to the lens-mount release button that is permenantly open when a lens is attached but closed if nothing attached, no clever electronics involved...and I'm sure camera designers could do something better!
In fact, with about 2 seconds thought I can come up with an Iris-shaped cover mechanical mechanism attached to the lens-mount release button that is permenantly open when a lens is attached but closed if nothing attached, no clever electronics involved...and I'm sure camera designers could do something better!
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
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