New Pentax camera?
Posted 21/04/2009 - 12:05
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Also, Pentax was at the time the name of a particular SLR camera manufactured by Asahi Optical Co, not the name of a company.
They didn't become Pentax Corp until really quite recently, my MZ-7 is badged "Asahi Optical".
They didn't become Pentax Corp until really quite recently, my MZ-7 is badged "Asahi Optical".
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Posted 21/04/2009 - 13:08
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Anvh wrote:
In 1957 Asahi introduced their first SLR with a Pentaprism and it was called the Asahi Pentax. Before that the name Pentax was not in use by the Asahi Optical Company.
Pentax isn't the inventor of the Pentaprism viewfinder, it is Contax. They introduced the Contax S in 1949.
On some markets their cameras were called Pentacon which was derived from PENTAprism and CONtax.
You probable right then, sorry [/quote]Actually wrong Zeiss invented the Pentaprism in 1936/37 link the war stopped production going ahead.golfdiesel wrote:
I believe that 7 of the 10 greatest eventions in photography came from Pentax, it would be a lost to everyone if the brand name doesn't go on.
I have done some reading and the name Pentax is derived from "PENTAprism refleX". Anvh wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="golfdiesel"]another thing... the name Pentax is obviously derived from the Pentaprism.
Nope the other way around Pentax evented it so they could name it. [quote:3496ace15f="golfdiesel"]another thing... the name Pentax is obviously derived from the Pentaprism.
I believe that 7 of the 10 greatest eventions in photography came from Pentax, it would be a lost to everyone if the brand name doesn't go on.
In 1957 Asahi introduced their first SLR with a Pentaprism and it was called the Asahi Pentax. Before that the name Pentax was not in use by the Asahi Optical Company.
Pentax isn't the inventor of the Pentaprism viewfinder, it is Contax. They introduced the Contax S in 1949.
On some markets their cameras were called Pentacon which was derived from PENTAprism and CONtax.
This page shows some very early pentaprisms link
shim
Posted 21/04/2009 - 13:37
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You're getting a bit confused about this, which isn't surprising considering it's a complex tale. Zeiss made Contax cameras originally, but post war Zeiss became split by the division into West Germany (Carl Zeiss) and East Germany (Carl Zeiss Jena).
The original cameras from East Germany were made with original parts, but later the quality dropped as they started to manufacture their own.
The Contax SLR had the first pentaprism, but the Ashai Optical Co made the jump with the Pentax and its instant return mirror and later with its automatic diaphragm. These things we take for granted today, but try using some older cameras and see how user-unfriendly they are.
The original cameras from East Germany were made with original parts, but later the quality dropped as they started to manufacture their own.
The Contax SLR had the first pentaprism, but the Ashai Optical Co made the jump with the Pentax and its instant return mirror and later with its automatic diaphragm. These things we take for granted today, but try using some older cameras and see how user-unfriendly they are.
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Posted 21/04/2009 - 16:51
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I'm not paying more than 1% of attention to all blurry photos and endless threads on some forums full of wishes what the new camera will be, but let me (hopefully) spawn some fuss here , information from "some other place in the internet", source in theory more reliable and better than "blurry picture of something" says:
New K7D will be a bit smaller than K20D, with 14mpix APS-C sensor, bigger viewfinder, much faster AF , HDMI movies, microphone socket, no Fn button (functions under a 4-way switch), probably SDM kit lens.
Regarding the sensor, my personal opinion is, I wouldn't be suprised seeing same sensor as used in K20D, but (very important but) improved, we know that this sensor had (has?) some problems, i.e. excessive noise in dark areas, I saw nice research pointing to a potential problems with integrated signal amplifiers, which could contribute to that, we possibly feel that Pentax could in the past just jump out with high mpixel, immature sensor to show something new when competitors were far away. I wouldn't be suprised seeing this sensor application improved, sort of same sensor but better , it makes more sense to use something tested, mature, than something completely new, does it?, especially for some sort of products/mile stones.
To say more, I wouldn't be suprised to find the sensor in recently manufactured K20Ds is performing better than in the first batches.
New K7D will be a bit smaller than K20D, with 14mpix APS-C sensor, bigger viewfinder, much faster AF , HDMI movies, microphone socket, no Fn button (functions under a 4-way switch), probably SDM kit lens.
Regarding the sensor, my personal opinion is, I wouldn't be suprised seeing same sensor as used in K20D, but (very important but) improved, we know that this sensor had (has?) some problems, i.e. excessive noise in dark areas, I saw nice research pointing to a potential problems with integrated signal amplifiers, which could contribute to that, we possibly feel that Pentax could in the past just jump out with high mpixel, immature sensor to show something new when competitors were far away. I wouldn't be suprised seeing this sensor application improved, sort of same sensor but better , it makes more sense to use something tested, mature, than something completely new, does it?, especially for some sort of products/mile stones.
To say more, I wouldn't be suprised to find the sensor in recently manufactured K20Ds is performing better than in the first batches.
Posted 21/04/2009 - 20:18
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piotro wrote:
I'm not paying more than 1% of attention to all blurry photos and endless threads on some forums full of wishes what the new camera will be
I think there are around 50 odd pages on the forum that could possibly be compacted into 5 or 6 if you take out all the hesitation, repetition and deviation. Total frenzy, I just hope too many of them aren't disappointed.I'm not paying more than 1% of attention to all blurry photos and endless threads on some forums full of wishes what the new camera will be
Quite amusing though ...
Posted 21/04/2009 - 20:30
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It seems that all the camera makers know what the public want, but never actually incorporate those features into one model.
I realise that if they did so it would stop (for a while)all the slight upgrades
Perhaps a smaller manufacturer could steal a march on the others by bringing out exactly what the majority of the paying public want.
Certain the technology is there and from this type of thread it soon becomes clear exactly what is wanted
I realise that if they did so it would stop (for a while)all the slight upgrades
Perhaps a smaller manufacturer could steal a march on the others by bringing out exactly what the majority of the paying public want.
Certain the technology is there and from this type of thread it soon becomes clear exactly what is wanted
Posted 22/04/2009 - 15:02
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Well it's getting clearer (maybe):
Announcement date while I'm still away. Hopefully I'll have internet access then. Only to check-in online of course .
There is also from the same source this:
Which seems to be a publicity photo.
Announcement date while I'm still away. Hopefully I'll have internet access then. Only to check-in online of course .
There is also from the same source this:
Which seems to be a publicity photo.
Posted 22/04/2009 - 17:48
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YAY
Posted 22/04/2009 - 18:49
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Kind of reminds me of an LX somehow.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 22/04/2009 - 19:07
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gartmore wrote:
Kind of reminds me of an LX somehow.
Me too. That prism shape from the front I think.Kind of reminds me of an LX somehow.
Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...
Posted 23/04/2009 - 18:12
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I think that the 2 photos on the link are just photoshop work.
Nonetheless, can we keep excited for another whole month?
Nonetheless, can we keep excited for another whole month?
Posted 23/04/2009 - 18:14
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Some people aready had a chance to touch and play with new camera. They of course can't speak about it, I don't know any of them personally, but as they haven't said anything metal, poeple were trying to read their minds, or maybe somebody who tried to read the excitement in their eyes with the new camera could find some info that new camera is a "new" body, not really a K20D continuation, despite some features similar, quite different and SDM kit lens is quite possible. But of course we have to wait for official info - end of May .
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another thing... the name Pentax is obviously derived from the Pentaprism.
I believe that 7 of the 10 greatest eventions in photography came from Pentax, it would be a lost to everyone if the brand name doesn't go on.
In 1957 Asahi introduced their first SLR with a Pentaprism and it was called the Asahi Pentax. Before that the name Pentax was not in use by the Asahi Optical Company.
Pentax isn't the inventor of the Pentaprism viewfinder, it is Contax. They introduced the Contax S in 1949.
On some markets their cameras were called Pentacon which was derived from PENTAprism and CONtax.
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