New Pentax camera?

Hardgravity
Posted 16/04/2009 - 13:02 Link
gartmore wrote:
How about a DSLR without the hopeless built in flash?
Looking at the original post it appears to be a flash-less size.

After all we used to use cameras with separate flashes so why not now. As long as a hot shoe is fitted and software is available a flash on the hot shoe could still be used as a trigger.

Or maybe wireless flash set ups without the on camera slave!
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Daniel Bridge
Posted 16/04/2009 - 13:09 Link
Hardgravity wrote:
gartmore wrote:
How about a DSLR without the hopeless built in flash?
Looking at the original post it appears to be a flash-less size.
Well, I look at that picture and see a joint line running around the top of the camera, where you would expect the flash to be, so to me it looks very much like it has one. Why else would there be that joint? : It would be a one-piece construction otherwise.

Dan
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George Lazarette
Posted 16/04/2009 - 14:05 Link
Hardgravity wrote:

After all we used to use cameras with separate flashes so why not now. As long as a hot shoe is fitted and software is available a flash on the hot shoe could still be used as a trigger.
I always use a separate flash as a trigger. One that points away from the subject.

G
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Hardgravity
Posted 16/04/2009 - 18:01 Link
Quote:
It would be a one-piece construction otherwise.
Not necessarily, it could just be easier to mould in separate pieces, or made like that to allow access to the 'penta'viewfinder, Dan.

As for separate flash triggers, George, I seldom use flash anyway!

So it wouldn't bother me to use a separate unit, I'm probably not alone with this either.
Cheers, HG

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felix
Posted 17/04/2009 - 06:45 Link
Well, the new Pentax distributor has hinted of a new unannounced DSLR to us Singapore Pentaxians, but did not say what it would be...

It has got us guessing also.

Let's all wait and see . . .
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Edited by felix: 20/04/2009 - 14:29
Don
Posted 17/04/2009 - 13:44 Link
MattMatic wrote:
I would say - no EVF, just LCD. This is what most digicam users expect to happen, and allows you to zoom for manual focus (I've even managed manual focus on the K20D live view when zoomed :shock.
I could see that an LCD-only dSLR could be made to work... ok it's not the same as pentaprism, but I could see a market
Matt
I'm thinking that LCD screens are getting good enough to replace other viewing methods
I'm typing on an. iPhone right now
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Anvh
Posted 17/04/2009 - 14:10 Link
Don wrote:
MattMatic wrote:
I would say - no EVF, just LCD. This is what most digicam users expect to happen, and allows you to zoom for manual focus (I've even managed manual focus on the K20D live view when zoomed :shock.
I could see that an LCD-only dSLR could be made to work... ok it's not the same as pentaprism, but I could see a market
Matt
I'm thinking that LCD screens are getting good enough to replace other viewing methods
I'm typing on an. iPhone right now
But what happen when the sunlight hits it on a so perfect that you don't see a thing, als no viewfinder would mean you would need to use the camera at arm length to look at the screen. Point and shoots are light so not much of a problem but try to keep an DLSR still at arm-lenght
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Don
Posted 17/04/2009 - 17:19 Link
Anvh wrote:
Don wrote:
MattMatic wrote:
I would say - no EVF, just LCD. This is what most digicam users expect to happen, and allows you to zoom for manual focus (I've even managed manual focus on the K20D live view when zoomed :shock.
I could see that an LCD-only dSLR could be made to work... ok it's not the same as pentaprism, but I could see a market
Matt
I'm thinking that LCD screens are getting good enough to replace other viewing methods
I'm typing on an. iPhone right now
But what happen when the sunlight hits it on a so perfect that you don't see a thing, als no viewfinder would mean you would need to use the camera at arm length to look at the screen. Point and shoots are light so not much of a problem but try to keep an DLSR still at arm-lenght
I'm expecting a hybrid evf/pentraprism where a Mattescreen gets replaced/overlayed with an lcd (possibly transparent) display for eyelevel viewing, and an lcd on the back of the camera as well.... and eventually evf viewers replacing pentaprisms altoghether
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 17/04/2009 - 17:20
golfdiesel
Posted 17/04/2009 - 19:44 Link
@Don
If EVF's are going to replace optical viewfinders then they would have to get the resolution of the LCD screens a lot higher to be able to use manual focus.
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Anvh
Posted 17/04/2009 - 20:21 Link
Don wrote:
I'm expecting a hybrid evf/pentraprism where a Mattescreen gets replaced/overlayed with an lcd (possibly transparent) display for eyelevel viewing, and an lcd on the back of the camera as well.... and eventually evf viewers replacing pentaprisms altoghether
If LCD would provide only information and not the view itself that would be great, no more switching those matt screen to get a rules of third and what to think of adaptive information.


golfdiesel wrote:
@Don
If EVF's are going to replace optical viewfinders then they would have to get the resolution of the LCD screens a lot higher to be able to use manual focus.
The biggest problem at the moment is the lag, you get seasick if you look through it too long and move alot
I was trying out a panasonic G1 for a minute
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foxycce
Posted 18/04/2009 - 19:20 Link
How does any 1 know its a pentax i have my money on it being a new samsung model ? any thoughts

Edit that just read the thread these pics obviously leaked pretty much the same way the new nikkon 5000 serious surfaced over the internet over last few days
Edited by foxycce: 18/04/2009 - 19:28
Gwyn
Posted 18/04/2009 - 19:49 Link
The announcement is due on April 24th. It is expected to be on sale soon afterwards.
foxycce
Posted 18/04/2009 - 20:19 Link
Gwyn wrote:
The announcement is due on April 24th. It is expected to be on sale soon afterwards.
will keep ears open
golfdiesel
Posted 19/04/2009 - 11:47 Link
Anvh wrote:
golfdiesel wrote:
another thing... the name Pentax is obviously derived from the Pentaprism.
Nope the other way around Pentax evented it so they could name it.
I believe that 7 of the 10 greatest eventions in photography came from Pentax, it would be a lost to everyone if the brand name doesn't go on.
I have done some reading and the name Pentax is derived from "PENTAprism refleX".
In 1957 Asahi introduced their first SLR with a Pentaprism and it was called the Asahi Pentax. Before that the name Pentax was not in use by the Asahi Optical Company.

Pentax isn't the inventor of the Pentaprism viewfinder, it is Contax. They introduced the Contax S in 1949.
On some markets their cameras were called Pentacon which was derived from PENTAprism and CONtax.
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Edited by golfdiesel: 19/04/2009 - 11:56
pentaxian450
Posted 19/04/2009 - 12:45 Link
Pentax was the first Japanese camera manufacturer to use a pentaprism. Before, they had SLR 35mm. cameras with waistfinder.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)

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