migrating from SLR to DSLR

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MattMatic

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 15:39
The prices of the K20D will only plummet so far. Second hand K10D go for around 275 - 300. Compared to that, the price of a new K7 will drop rapidly over the coming months.

So, from a long-term point of view, I would see it something like this:
K20D now for 500, sell for 300 in 6 months. (loss of 200)
K7D now for 1200(?), available for 700 in 6 months. (500 cheaper)

So, if you bought a K20D and traded up in 6 months then you're still 300 up That'll get you most of a DA* lens


Seriously consider the cost of the glass For example, the DA*50-135 is utterly sublime. Yes, the K7 will probably be better in some respects - but I'm not sure by just how much
The Pentax digital glass though is well worth shelling out for (e.g. DA*50-135, DA17-70, DA12-24, FA50/1.4 etc).


Your other option is to consider the slower and older cameras like the *ist-D and *ist-Ds. You can pick them up for around 200 with a kit lens. I still have the *ist-D that I paid around 1100 for With good glass it can still take seriously good images (and I mean seriously good ) Very tiny size, still packed with features, and very configurable. The *ist-D & *ist-Ds are TTL flash compatible too, and work very well with manual focus lenses. That way you'll get to try all your old LX glass.

Let us know your location - maybe there's a Pentax User who could let you try the various dSLRs

I'm not knocking the K7, but I'm just pointing out that one of the older bodies may cover 80% of your photographic needs for not much outlay

Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
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Mannesty

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 15:44
The K-7 is smaller and lighter than the K20D. It is not likely that we will see any more firmware updates for the K20D.

Pentax's past history shows that once a body reaches it's end of production (probably imminent in the case of the K20D) they make no further updates to it's firmware. EG: Version 1.03 was recently released for the K20D which supposedly improved the performance of it's shake reduction (SR) system. That same mod was not offered to K10D owners, a body which shares the exact same SR system. If it's only a firmware change, why not offer it for all cameras that might be improved?

If you were to get a K20D now, then get a K-7 when it's price drops to the same level you will end up with two cameras for less than the price of the K-7 at launch, but you will have had lots of fun in the meantime.
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Snootchies

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 16:18
I've had my K20D also since last January; and it's been an absolute pleasure with no issues at all.
Bob

My website (Hadfield Photography)

Pentax Gallery Artist page:link

Flickr Photostream: link

Pentaxophile

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 17:46
Matt makes a very good point. An older 6mp model like the K100D would be a great c.150 second hand choice to get you started. The K10D is certainly worth a mention too at less than 300 second hand!

Down the road you may wish to upgrade to the apparently flawless K7, or you may even prefer the K20D - either way you can take advantage of falling prices and could keep the older body as a spare or flog it - it won't lose much value at those prices!
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BODYHEAT

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 18:11
Unless I am looking in the wrong places, like eBay, I don't see too many K100Ds or similar coming up second hand - I guess that's a good sign though
FILM - Pentax: LX, K2 - 24/2.8, 40/2.8, 50/1.4, 120/2.8, 80-200/4.5, 28-105mm 2.8 macro, AF 280T

DIGITAL - Nikon : D300 - 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S VR DX

Snootchies

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 18:26
Found some for you in case you are interested:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K100D-Super-Digital-SLR-Camera-Digital-Camera_W0QQitemZ330332235213QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item4ce955e5cd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB92-Pentax-K100D-Super-6-1mp-Pentax-18-55mm-lens_W0QQitemZ300316756576QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item45ec460a60&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PENTAX-K100D-SUPER-FANTASTIC-DSLR_W0QQitemZ200345709738QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item2ea588ecaa&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K100D-6-1-Megapixel-BUILT-IN-SHAKE-REDUCTION_W0QQitemZ230345115171QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital_Cameras?hash=item35a1a38623&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K100D-6-1-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Package_W0QQitemZ140323381516QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item20abece10c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Bob

My website (Hadfield Photography)

Pentax Gallery Artist page:link

Flickr Photostream: link

BODYHEAT

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 18:36
wow thanks, how did I miss those? doing a saerch on ebay for K100D came up with virtually nothing
FILM - Pentax: LX, K2 - 24/2.8, 40/2.8, 50/1.4, 120/2.8, 80-200/4.5, 28-105mm 2.8 macro, AF 280T

DIGITAL - Nikon : D300 - 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S VR DX

BODYHEAT

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 18:49
at the rate the bids keep increasing for the K100Ds I might as well buy a new KM!
FILM - Pentax: LX, K2 - 24/2.8, 40/2.8, 50/1.4, 120/2.8, 80-200/4.5, 28-105mm 2.8 macro, AF 280T

DIGITAL - Nikon : D300 - 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S VR DX

Snootchies

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 18:52
BODYHEAT wrote:
at the rate the bids keep increasing for the K100Ds I might as well buy a new KM!

You do have a point!

I Suppose it's quite indicative of how well an older Pentax body can retain it's value
Bob

My website (Hadfield Photography)

Pentax Gallery Artist page:link

Flickr Photostream: link
Last Edited by Snootchies on 27/05/2009 - 18:54

MattMatic

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 20:25
Personally I would recommend the Pentax cameras that have a pentaprism, rather than the cheaper penta-mirror.
So that's *ist-D, *ist-DS, K10D, K20D (if I haven't missed any!)
LCE Group have some e.g. K10D 280
...and you could always phone Chris at SRS Microsystems - I'm sure he gets second hand ones too

Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
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scottthehat

Link Posted 27/05/2009 - 20:31
i think the k100d super is an amizingly underated camera, worth a good look, but if you wont weather proffing the k10 or k20 or k200d,
just keep snapping,

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson

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CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.

BODYHEAT

Link Posted 28/05/2009 - 22:54
Based upon the eBAy prices that these cameras go for, I am tempted to buy a brand new KM or K20D instead of buying an older model something secondhand and paying over 250 for it. Here's the email I just received from eBay on one K100 I was bidding on:

This one got away but there's plenty more fish in the sea. Find similar items now.

Pentax K100D Super Digital SLR Camera Digital Camera...
Sale price: 255.00
Your maximum bid: 180.00
Search for similar items
FILM - Pentax: LX, K2 - 24/2.8, 40/2.8, 50/1.4, 120/2.8, 80-200/4.5, 28-105mm 2.8 macro, AF 280T

DIGITAL - Nikon : D300 - 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S VR DX

BODYHEAT

Link Posted 28/05/2009 - 22:55
If someone can find a K100D for 150 you should snap it up as the more realistic price is 100 more!
FILM - Pentax: LX, K2 - 24/2.8, 40/2.8, 50/1.4, 120/2.8, 80-200/4.5, 28-105mm 2.8 macro, AF 280T

DIGITAL - Nikon : D300 - 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S VR DX

greynolds999

Link Posted 28/05/2009 - 23:09
LCE have one for 189. link.
My Photobucket

BODYHEAT

Link Posted 31/05/2009 - 19:34
interesting. As it happens, I went into LCE in Guildford the other day and the manager only had a solitary KM and was not even aware of the K7's existence. I asked him when he might have one to play with (as I wanted to compare the size with the KM - they sound a similar size) and so he phoned Pentax while I was there.

They told him July and started telling him the specs...his eyes lit up and he sounded very interested and ordered one immediately for the shop.

Now this tells me one thing: Pentax have great cameras, but lousy sales and marketing. Why would a store manager of LCE not even be aware of the camera, let alone have had a rep visit and been shown a pre-production model to get his juices flowing?

Come on Pentax, get your act together and show the world how good you really are. Stop hiding your light under a bushel
FILM - Pentax: LX, K2 - 24/2.8, 40/2.8, 50/1.4, 120/2.8, 80-200/4.5, 28-105mm 2.8 macro, AF 280T

DIGITAL - Nikon : D300 - 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S VR DX
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