MGB - 81 An Abstract
Posted 18/08/2009 - 22:09
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Hi Hyram
To be honest I'm not sure about this one, being viewed on a small monitor I don't think the size does it justice, if it was about 12' x 4' on a gallery wall I think it would have a stunning effect. Good excuse to buy myself a bigger monitor me thinks. Still interesting and a brave post though.
To be honest I'm not sure about this one, being viewed on a small monitor I don't think the size does it justice, if it was about 12' x 4' on a gallery wall I think it would have a stunning effect. Good excuse to buy myself a bigger monitor me thinks. Still interesting and a brave post though.
A poor life this, if full of care,
We have no time to stand and stare. W.H Davies
We have no time to stand and stare. W.H Davies
Posted 19/08/2009 - 09:16
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I take your point about the size but hopefully most people can visualise it as a large poster
My work monitor is 24" which is quite handy on occasions.
My work monitor is 24" which is quite handy on occasions.
Hyram
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Posted 19/08/2009 - 09:28
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I can't appreciate the effects that's been applied to the shadows at this size so it also lacks impact for me as well. I can't say I like the effect I can see and I'm not sure that having that strong horizontal towards the bottom does much for the composition. The diagonals at the top also look a bit 'forced' if that makes any sense.
I'm sure it needs to be bigger. I have a big monitor so can you post a link to a larger image?
Mike
I'm sure it needs to be bigger. I have a big monitor so can you post a link to a larger image?
Mike
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Posted 19/08/2009 - 09:40
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Mike,
Thanks for the comments.
I will post a link when I am home.
The only effects that have been applied are conversion to black and white (although the original is grey and grey), tweaking of the contrast and the application of a bit of tone.
The rest is as taken at water level (apart from cropping) with the various diagonals and horizontals all as designed during the second world war.
Thanks for the comments.
I will post a link when I am home.
The only effects that have been applied are conversion to black and white (although the original is grey and grey), tweaking of the contrast and the application of a bit of tone.
The rest is as taken at water level (apart from cropping) with the various diagonals and horizontals all as designed during the second world war.
Hyram
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Posted 19/08/2009 - 13:48
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Hyram wrote:
The only effects that have been applied are conversion to black and white (although the original is grey and grey), tweaking of the contrast and the application of a bit of tone.
Surely you've used a PS filter like 'Poster Edges' too? Or is the posterisation just a result of the contrast change?The only effects that have been applied are conversion to black and white (although the original is grey and grey), tweaking of the contrast and the application of a bit of tone.
Dan
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Posted 19/08/2009 - 13:55
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Dan,
You are right, I did use a filter of some description but I can't remember which one, hence I used the phrase "the application of a bit of tone"
The original is just two tone camouflage grey (to match the usual colour of the English Channel) so the filter applied seemed to fit in with the camouflage theme.
You are right, I did use a filter of some description but I can't remember which one, hence I used the phrase "the application of a bit of tone"
The original is just two tone camouflage grey (to match the usual colour of the English Channel) so the filter applied seemed to fit in with the camouflage theme.
Hyram
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Posted 19/08/2009 - 14:11
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Hi Hyram,
I can see the abstract, I also can see it work in B & W. But........the posterisation kills it for me. It has a lot of potential, the original file that is.
Martin.
I can see the abstract, I also can see it work in B & W. But........the posterisation kills it for me. It has a lot of potential, the original file that is.
Martin.
Posted 19/08/2009 - 14:55
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My bad....... But the feeling stays I would lie to see the bigger version also.
Martin.
Martin.
Posted 19/08/2009 - 15:08
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I have to be honest and say I don't know the difference between the two. In the good old days I did solarization in the darkroom but on reflection I can;'t think why. You sometimes got a nice effect but that was the exception really.
Mike
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Posted 19/08/2009 - 15:27
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I believe when something is 'solarized', some of the bright tones will turn dark, so think of a shot of the sun, where the disk of the sun would be black but the sky around would still be pale. Posterization is reducing the steps between tones, so that rather than a smooth gradation from dark to pale, we see distinct steps, as with Hyram's photo.
Hyram, I took 'a bit of tone' to mean a bit of colour, I thought it must have had a slight tint that I couldn't discern.
Dan
Hyram, I took 'a bit of tone' to mean a bit of colour, I thought it must have had a slight tint that I couldn't discern.
Dan
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