Metz,sigma or pentax Digital flash?


caj26

Link Posted 06/04/2012 - 21:35
Want to get a flash for my K-7.My first one, what do you recommend? I appreciate your advice,thanks.

chrissinkpen

Link Posted 06/04/2012 - 21:59
The Metz guns are well made, they articulate both ways(not the whole range) and represent good value for money.
I use a METZ 48. Now replaced by the '44' I believe.
Regards
Chris

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wvbarnes

Link Posted 06/04/2012 - 22:26
I looked at the build quality of Metz these days in my local LCE and bought Sigma mail order instead from WEX. I have the cheaper one. Excellent http://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/flash/610st.htm

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Whizzkiddwill

Link Posted 06/04/2012 - 22:27
I just purchased the Pentax AF 360 FGZ from Jessops. com for 159.99 (about 2 weeks ago). Only tilt's no swivel but a great price. Just need to learn how to use it now. The Met 50 looked good and was only about 30 more, with swivel and p-Tyler and wireless flash. Might be worth a look.

Will
Pentax K-x, DAL f3.5-5.6 18-55mm,Pentax-A 50mm f2, DAL f4-5.6 50-200mm, FG360FGZ

pentaxian450

Link Posted 06/04/2012 - 23:51
Sigma flashes are very decent unit for the price. I use three DG Super and they do a very good job...once you figure out how to operate them. The user interface is less than stellar. Once that's settle, they do the job very well.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)

wvbarnes

Link Posted 06/04/2012 - 23:52
The cheaper Sigma is very easy to use.

xbow

Link Posted 07/04/2012 - 10:59
I've got a Metz 44 and it's incredibly easy to use - google for some images to see the controls.
K5, LightRoom 5
Sigma 8-16 Pentax DA 16-45 Pentax DA 55-300 Pentax 18-55WR Tamron 90 Di Macro Metz 44 AF-1

woodworm

Link Posted 07/04/2012 - 12:25
This is worth a read - PTTL Flash Comparison

From what I've read then the Metz flashes seem to be the best for features, value for money and build quality. I have a Metz 58-AF2 and it's very well made.

If I had a critism of it I think I would prefer more buttons to access the controls like the Pentax flash guns.

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Slovak

Link Posted 07/04/2012 - 15:17
I've never had any Pentax flash, so can't really comment on them. With my old film-era Pentax MZ50 I used some simple and relatively cheap Sigma, EF 430 ST or something like that. Gradually it became a nightmare to use it, because it would fire/misfire randomly, still covered by guarantee. Sent it in for a repair, they didn't fix it - I think they recommended using fresh batteries all the time. After having it it my closet for about 10 years, I googled out how to dismantle it, dismantled it and found out that one of the wires that was soldered to the (zooming) flash head was broken off, definitely by frequent zooming of the reflector in/out. It was easily fixed. It may have been a rare case, I don't know, but now I'm using 3 Metz flashes (two 58 AF-1 and one 48 AF-1, which is no longer in production and is replaced by 50 AF-1), and so far I haven't had any problems with them, touch wood. The 48 AF-1 cost me 120 Euro second-hand, which I think is a bargain, for the features it offers. Before buying the first one of the Metzes, I compared Metz and Pentax on paper and Metz was a definite winner. As we say over here, more music for less money. And they're German, they're made in Germany and have been around for decades.
K-5, K-x, DA* 50-135, DA 70 Ltd, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.7, Tamron 17-50 & 90 f2.8 Di macro, Sigma 17-50 f2.8 & 10-20, Metz 58 & 48 AF-1
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Neonoctis

Link Posted 12/04/2012 - 13:23
I own a Metz 58 AF2. Very good construction, a lots of function, fully compatible, easy use, etc. I'm very happy with it.
Furthemore, if you want to work with more than one, you can buy other Metz flash like the 50/48/44 because they can work in slave mode. Thanks to the P-TTL pentax flash control it will be easy and cheap : there's no need to buy any wireless trigger (if the distance is around 5 meters, I don't try further).

Buy a Metz is'nt a waste of money

Just be very carefull if you look around second hand ancient flashes (I mean argentic flashes), they can destroy the camera or them selves because of high voltage delivery... if you put them on your camera. In slave mode (with optical trigger for example) it's ok !

To finish, if you haven't used flash on a camera before, search for tutorial about synchronisation speed (its 1/180 for the K7 if I remember well) and about balance between flash light and ambiant light. I highly recommend you the "strobist website" :


And particularly these links :


Have fun ^^
A frenchy photograph !

Pentax K20D, Grip DBG-2, Tamron 28-75mm f2.8, Pentax A 50mm f1.7, Pentax DA 18-55mm f3.5-5.6, Pentax FA 80-200mm f4.5-5.6, Flash Metz 58 AF-2...
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AndrewA

Link Posted 12/04/2012 - 15:45
I spent 60 on a mint second hand Pentax AF200FG, it doesn't have the swivel head but has been a good step up for me from the in bulit flash. Would recommend one without hesitation!
Andrew

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NaimKhan

Link Posted 12/04/2012 - 22:02
woodworm wrote:
This is worth a read - PTTL Flash Comparison

From what I've read then the Metz flashes seem to be the best for features, value for money and build quality. I have a Metz 58-AF2 and it's very well made.

If I had a critism of it I think I would prefer more buttons to access the controls like the Pentax flash guns.

My opinion as well, for what it's worth.
PPG

Offertonhatter

Link Posted 12/04/2012 - 23:06
I have both the 360 and 540 flashes. I have had the 540 for a few years, before prices went silly, and I was lucky with the 360, as a major High street chain were selling them off really cheap. Both are great, but the 540 has the extra ability of the swivel head. However having said that, the 360 is still a great flash unit, and for solo portrait work, it provides enough power.

Ultimately though, I would go for flash guns that you can use "wirelessly", ie off camera, which uses the camera flash as the trigger.
This will be a boon, and very creative. In fact I have used both flashes off camera as a compact strobe set up when my proper strobes are too bulky, or when I am out in the field. So really go for the ones that can be used off camera, and if they can "talk" to Pentax flashes at the same time, all the better.

Hope this helps.
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scarr1

Link Posted 12/04/2012 - 23:16
i put a similar post up a few weeks ago (my flash choices...but which one?), and ended up getting a Metz 50af-1, 160 with free delivery from srsmicrosystems.
i must say i am very pleased with it, and find it works great with my KR, though the menu system does take some getting used to, but i suppose thats the same with the sigma flashes.
srs also do the sigma ef610dg super for 170.
either of these two would be a good choice, but i based my decision on the the metz being a bit smaller in size and from what ive read, an easier user interface.

hope this helps.

Frogfish

Link Posted 13/04/2012 - 06:12
scarr1 wrote:
i put a similar post up a few weeks ago (my flash choices...but which one?), and ended up getting a Metz 50af-1

I also have a copy of this Metz flash and it is excellent, the P-TTL works just fine.

The only feature I prefer on the Pentax's (and I'm not sure which ones have it) is the flip-lock as opposed to the knurled wheel on the Metz. I had one of those wheels lock-up on me and had to use pliers to loosen it.
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