manual settings makes folks skin very red

Taynuiltpixels
Posted 20/10/2013 - 20:12 Link
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The photo subject aside, a problem I often have when on manual settings (K5iis) using old glass is that the skin tone comes up really red, as it has here, leaving all the other colours looking fine, is this a characteristic of using too fast ISO? Any advise gratefully received.

Thanks

Stephen
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JAK
Posted 21/10/2013 - 00:25 Link
I think it might be because it is underexposed.

How's this?

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I've just brightened it a bit and added a gamma boost to the mid tones.

John K
John K
Taynuiltpixels
Posted 21/10/2013 - 08:39 Link
Thanks John - I would say the normal colour is that which you have achieved under the chin - so still too red everywhere else. S'pose a high ISO could lead to under exposure - but it was a dull day yesterday and I have also had the same effect on sunny days - s'pose I will just have to keep playing around until I get the correct mixture of settings- it is annoying though as it will only be matter of time before I lose/spoil a keeper due to this, so would like to get it nailed.
"All you ever gotta do is be a good man one time to one woman"
(Janis Joplin)

KIT: K5iis, DAWR18-55mm,FA4.5 80-320mm, Mitsuki 5.6 400mm, M1.7 50mm, M1.4 50mm, M2.8 28mm, Miranda M2.8 28mm, M3.5 135mm, M1.4 200mm, Vivitar S13.5 70-210mm, Vivitar A 2.8 90mm macro,
Sigma150-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG HSM.
gartmore
Posted 21/10/2013 - 09:04 Link
It looks like under exposure to me and high ISO is less likely to lead to that. What did you manually set the WB to?
Ken
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ChrisA
Posted 21/10/2013 - 09:21 Link
Looking at the EXIF data from the image, the camera is set to Hard contrast, High Saturation, and Hard sharpness.

The White Balance is on auto, ISO 800 and 1/320.

I'd be inclined to tone down the contrast and saturation, and use a neutral setting instead.
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Edited by ChrisA: 21/10/2013 - 09:21
montyaus
Posted 21/10/2013 - 09:28 Link
You have the camera set to high saturation and center weighted average,I would use natural and spot-metering to the subject,if that was the object of the photo.

Jack.
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Edited by montyaus: 21/10/2013 - 09:31
ChrisA
Posted 21/10/2013 - 09:33 Link
montyaus wrote:
You have the camera set to high saturation and matrix metering,I would use natural and spot-metering to the subject,if that was the object of the photo.
Centre-weighted, according to EXIF-Viewer in Firefox.

If the face is in shadow, using spot-metering will burn the sky out which may not be what's wanted.
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Pentaxophile
Posted 21/10/2013 - 10:28 Link
Try white balance to 'Daylight' and colour tone to 'Natural'.

Older lenses sometimes don't play nice with AWB, I have absolutely no idea why!
montyaus
Posted 21/10/2013 - 10:31 Link
If you would expose for the face and not have the sky blown out it would require a filter,would it not.

the scene didn`t look like it was very bright so in PP you might be able to adjust it,the K5iis does have a good dynamic range the example that JAC posted would`nt have blown the sky

The OP inquired as to the the red skin this would in my opinion fix it.

Jack.

PS I edited the post as you were reading it
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Edited by montyaus: 21/10/2013 - 10:36
ChrisA
Posted 21/10/2013 - 10:44 Link
montyaus wrote:
If you would expose for the face ....

The OP inquired as to the the red skin this would in my opinion fix it.
I don't see how the unnaturally red cheeks and chin is an exposure problem. I mean, it's underexposed, sure, which makes everything look darker.

But as the OP said (of the lightened version):

Taynuiltpixels wrote:
Thanks John - I would say the normal colour is that which you have achieved under the chin - so still too red everywhere else.
The EXIF clearly says that the saturation is cranked up - a smoking gun if ever I saw one.
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JAK
Posted 21/10/2013 - 15:04 Link
Tone down the saturation and this is the result:

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It doesn't look red now.

As suggested, just set the camera to normal settings unless you want to distort the colours.

John K
John K
Taynuiltpixels
Posted 21/10/2013 - 20:41 Link
Thank you everyone, I am still very much on the learning curve with all this. I must have inadvertently changed the settings for contrast, saturation and sharpness - so I will delve into the destruction manual and try and suss out how to reset them to a more neutral setting.
"All you ever gotta do is be a good man one time to one woman"
(Janis Joplin)

KIT: K5iis, DAWR18-55mm,FA4.5 80-320mm, Mitsuki 5.6 400mm, M1.7 50mm, M1.4 50mm, M2.8 28mm, Miranda M2.8 28mm, M3.5 135mm, M1.4 200mm, Vivitar S13.5 70-210mm, Vivitar A 2.8 90mm macro,
Sigma150-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG HSM.

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