Mag articles like this really annoy me
Posted 10/06/2009 - 16:53
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Tooks wrote:
Oh my god, the big guns are awake!!
Ok, I will bow to your superior knowledge in this area and award the win to Pentax, but I will qualify it by saying I really meant with lenses built in most peoples living memory!
That's fair enough, I've no problem with folk arguing the toss over whether features are worthwhile or not but I have to draw the line at disinformation as that's how rumours get started.Oh my god, the big guns are awake!!
Ok, I will bow to your superior knowledge in this area and award the win to Pentax, but I will qualify it by saying I really meant with lenses built in most peoples living memory!
Off to dampen my powder now then...
Joining the Q
Posted 10/06/2009 - 16:53
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Tooks wrote:
I've been doing the first three in software for years, and CA/DC shouldn't be an issue if you have decent lenses in the first place. As just about every image you take needs to be processed in some way, it's not a deal breaker IMO.
Weather sealing has been achieved for years with plastic bags or cheap fitted covers, your choice. I still wouldn't take a weather sealed body and lens to somewhere like Donna Nook during a gale without additional protection, you'd be stupid to do otherwise.
A D90 with a stabilised lens is still stabilised.!
You did ask for camera features, I've got a £4k MAC Pro at home and never got round to make a HDR photo, I've done several now, that's the point, you can try it out in camera with no additional software, time at PC etc. etc.I've been doing the first three in software for years, and CA/DC shouldn't be an issue if you have decent lenses in the first place. As just about every image you take needs to be processed in some way, it's not a deal breaker IMO.
Weather sealing has been achieved for years with plastic bags or cheap fitted covers, your choice. I still wouldn't take a weather sealed body and lens to somewhere like Donna Nook during a gale without additional protection, you'd be stupid to do otherwise.
A D90 with a stabilised lens is still stabilised.!
CA/DC done in camera is a big deal. Again, I've never got round to working out how the hell to do it, and we have CS3 extended suite. One shot gives you the Raw uncorrected, and the JPEG, ready to use out of the camera, corrected.
As for weather sealing, well, Luminous Landscape organised a trip that had 24x 5D mark 2's on it when they got released. One light shower, cameras in plastic bags, 6 died. 4 dried out and eventually worked again, 2 met their maker. We had a very heavy shower on Sunday when out at the zoo, and I went straight out and shot in that weather.

Camera and lens are perfectly fine, strangely enough because they are designed to be weatherproof, are you really saying that I am stupid, or basing that on how good the 'weather sealing' is on other cameras?
Posted 10/06/2009 - 16:59
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On the weather sealing issue - I took the K20D, grip & DA*50-135 on a walkabout. Heavens opened and I got absolutely drenched right to the skin. This wasn't a shower
Camera and lens were both dripping in rain. (The hood kept the rain off the front element.) Took loads of images because the lighting was unusual (hadn't shot in the pouring rain before :roll and both were absolutely 100% fine
Took 'em home, dried with a towel and left out to completely dry.
Love it
Beats a 5D then
Matt
Camera and lens were both dripping in rain. (The hood kept the rain off the front element.) Took loads of images because the lighting was unusual (hadn't shot in the pouring rain before :roll and both were absolutely 100% fine
Took 'em home, dried with a towel and left out to completely dry.
Love it
Beats a 5D then
Matt
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Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:03
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Now the HDR in camera is one thing that has made me look, and I did at the shots that were taken on the K7, it has made me want to try it for myself, yes I could do it with softwear but in camera makes it even better and quicker, and whats the betting other manufactures will follow.
Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:03
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Nikon's legacy lense compatibility is at at least as good as Pentax's.
No, not even close. But still in the runner-up slot.
Nikon's legacy lense compatibility is at at least as good as Pentax's.
Best regards, John
Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:07
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Unlocker wrote:
CA/DC done in camera is a big deal. Again, I've never got round to working out how the hell to do it, and we have CS3 extended suite. One shot gives you the Raw uncorrected, and the JPEG, ready to use out of the camera, corrected.
As for weather sealing, well, Luminous Landscape organised a trip that had 24x 5D mark 2's on it when they got released. One light shower, cameras in plastic bags, 6 died. 4 dried out and eventually worked again, 2 met their maker. We had a very heavy shower on Sunday when out at the zoo, and I went straight out and shot in that weather.

Camera and lens are perfectly fine, strangely enough because they are designed to be weatherproof, are you really saying that I am stupid, or basing that on how good the 'weather sealing' is on other camers?
Come of it Unlocker, everybody knows you took that telescope shot with your K-7 shielded under your ample anorak!! Tooks wrote:
I've been doing the first three in software for years, and CA/DC shouldn't be an issue if you have decent lenses in the first place. As just about every image you take needs to be processed in some way, it's not a deal breaker IMO.
Weather sealing has been achieved for years with plastic bags or cheap fitted covers, your choice. I still wouldn't take a weather sealed body and lens to somewhere like Donna Nook during a gale without additional protection, you'd be stupid to do otherwise.
A D90 with a stabilised lens is still stabilised.!
You did ask for camera features, I've got a £4k MAC Pro at home and never got round to make a HDR photo, I've done several now, that's the point, you can try it out in camera with no additional software, time at PC etc. etc.I've been doing the first three in software for years, and CA/DC shouldn't be an issue if you have decent lenses in the first place. As just about every image you take needs to be processed in some way, it's not a deal breaker IMO.
Weather sealing has been achieved for years with plastic bags or cheap fitted covers, your choice. I still wouldn't take a weather sealed body and lens to somewhere like Donna Nook during a gale without additional protection, you'd be stupid to do otherwise.
A D90 with a stabilised lens is still stabilised.!
CA/DC done in camera is a big deal. Again, I've never got round to working out how the hell to do it, and we have CS3 extended suite. One shot gives you the Raw uncorrected, and the JPEG, ready to use out of the camera, corrected.
As for weather sealing, well, Luminous Landscape organised a trip that had 24x 5D mark 2's on it when they got released. One light shower, cameras in plastic bags, 6 died. 4 dried out and eventually worked again, 2 met their maker. We had a very heavy shower on Sunday when out at the zoo, and I went straight out and shot in that weather.

Camera and lens are perfectly fine, strangely enough because they are designed to be weatherproof, are you really saying that I am stupid, or basing that on how good the 'weather sealing' is on other camers?
I of course am not saying your stupid, it's amiss of you to suggest I was.
But I was saying that weather sealed or not (and I owned K10's and K20's as well as weather sealed lenses previous to my current kit remenber) I still protected my kit with additional weather protection when at places like Donna Nook as rain and sand blowing horizontally did get everywhere and even though nothing got in to the camera or lens, arriving home and taking a lens off with a grinding noise followed by sand getting in to the mirror box is not recommended, even after I had cleaned everything.
I was making the point that weather sealing is useful, but again not a unique feature, and in any case not something that will cope with all situations. My D300 is fully weather sealed, and a neoprene cover on my prime zoom takes care of the water and other nasties. I've stood for hours in all weathers up in the mountains photographing fast jets with all types of camera users, and none of us has ever lost a camera or lens with just a little care. In some cases, it's a solution looking for a problem IMO. Whatever did Ansell Adams do without weather sealing?
I used to walk for hours in the rain with my uncovered K20d and 17-70, and guess what, I do the same with my Nikon kit with no ill effect.
Regarding correcting CA/DC, I can't say I've ever needed to do it, and I'd be disappointed with any camera/lens combo that generated it regularly. But, it's not that hard to correct in CS3 Extended, which is what I use too.
But anyway, as some people can't seem to see past anything with a Pentax badge, I'll leave this now and let normal rose tinted service resume...
Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:11
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Tooks wrote:
But anyway, as some people can't seem to see past anything with a Pentax badge, I'll leave this now and let normal rose tinted service resume...
Actually if I could afford a D700 and suitable lenses I would probably off like a shot. The noise control on that thing is just amazing.But anyway, as some people can't seem to see past anything with a Pentax badge, I'll leave this now and let normal rose tinted service resume...
But I can't .. so I won't ....
Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:12
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Mike-P wrote:
But I can't .. so I won't ....
Well stated Mike
Tooks wrote:
But anyway, as some people can't seem to see past anything with a Pentax badge, I'll leave this now and let normal rose tinted service resume...
Actually if I could afford a D700 and suitable lenses I would probably off like a shot. The noise control on that thing is just amazing.But anyway, as some people can't seem to see past anything with a Pentax badge, I'll leave this now and let normal rose tinted service resume...
But I can't .. so I won't ....
Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:26
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Well, as I've already confessed I own a Canon Powershot G9 and would not swap it for anything (except a free Leica).
But let's face it, we like Pentax partly because we like Pentax people. We like being a little different from the rest. Being a Pentaxian is about belonging to a small, friendly club. We know we're not elite and we wish we could show others how nice it is to be a part of us, but we wouldn't want to hold anyone here against their will.
But let's face it, we like Pentax partly because we like Pentax people. We like being a little different from the rest. Being a Pentaxian is about belonging to a small, friendly club. We know we're not elite and we wish we could show others how nice it is to be a part of us, but we wouldn't want to hold anyone here against their will.
Posted 10/06/2009 - 17:28
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Then we would not have anyone to have fun with
Posted 10/06/2009 - 19:37
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This has been Photoshoped I'v just seen the real one and the girl with the camera is the front page, and there's nothing about Pentax or Pentax users.
Surprising what others believe......
Surprising what others believe......
Tel,
Posted 10/06/2009 - 19:42
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Actually all these useful K-7 features spilling all over these threads has even more convinced me that placing that deposit was a sound idea