Macro on a budget?

Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:13 Link
I am wanting to have a bash at macro photography but cannot afford too much.

I recently bought the manual focus 50mm f2.8 Macro lens and I really like it but it isn't true macro, it's only 1:2. I bought a Vivtar teleconverter but the resulting photos don't seem as sharp as they could be.

What are my options for getting sharp, true 1:1 macro but on a budget? Is it possible? I really like the pin sharp photos of dragonflys etc and would like to have a go.
SteveEveritt
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:19 Link
Tubes and an old 50mm is pretty much the cheapest option you will get. However dragonflies tend to be a bit more difficult to get close to so popping an old manual 300mm on a 31mm tube will give you a higher magnification. Your best weapon is stealth though.
There's a whack of good gear here if you want to get into macro.
Flickr
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" (John Lennon)
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:22 Link
Tubes? What's that then? Basically a tube? Does it harm IQ?

I don't mind using an manual focus lens as I am used to it.
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:22 Link
Would a tube on my 50mm lens give better results than the teleconverter I have been using?
SteveEveritt
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:29 Link
Because the tube has no additional glass to interfere with the image that arrives at the sensor it will be sharper, and because it holds the lens further from the sensor it magnifies the subject hugely.

Example with a Pentax A 50mm f1.7, however you have to get very close. To successfully shoot damsells and dragons you will need to be further from your subject for two reasons. 1. they are twitchy and 2 they tend to be quite large and so to get them all in the picture you need to be some distance away.
Flickr
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" (John Lennon)
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:33 Link
OK. So why do people use teleconverters instead of tubes sometimes? It seems a tube is better if it doesn't degrade IQ?

So if I wanted to shoot a large insect using tubes - would I do that using a longer lens then?

Lenses I own - 10-24mm, 50mm, 50-135mm, 17-50mm
Gary Hickin
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:46 Link
I use tubes with a 50mm A F1.7, 70-210mm A f4 and a mint 100mm M F4 Macro - depending on the subject- all combinations give great results. The Raynox DCR snap-on macro is also worth trying- I have had some very nice pics using this lens on the 50mm 1.7 A.
Edited by Gary Hickin: 12/12/2013 - 17:53
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:49 Link
Bloody hell Gary - I have just looked at your Flickr portfolio and WOW! Some absolutely stunning pics there mate - love your still life stuff too - they look amazing - are you using light painting on some of them as they look so unusual?
Gary Hickin
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:56 Link
Thank you very much Jason. I sometimes use a small Maglite to 'paint' in areas that need a lift, especially with candlelight.
Posted 12/12/2013 - 17:57 Link
I am looking at these Raynox things on eBay.

So if I get a Raynox DCR-250 and stick it on my Pentax 50-135mm f2.8 lens I'll be getting reasonable results do you think?
sterretje
Posted 12/12/2013 - 18:15 - Helpful Comment Link
Daydreamjay wrote:
What are my options for getting sharp, true 1:1 macro but on a budget? Is it possible? I really like the pin sharp photos of dragonflys etc and would like to have a go.
This might be of interest: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/54-pentax-lens-articles/152336-cheap-macro-bu...
Pentax K10D + Vivitar 55/2.8 macro + Super Takumar 55/1.8 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 85/1.8 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 135/3.5 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 200/4 + Super Takumar 300/4
Pentax K100D + DA18-55ALII + DA55-300
Pentax K5 + FA31Ltd + M50/1.7 + DFA100WR + M120/2.8 (+ DA18-55WR at occasion)
redbusa99
Posted 12/12/2013 - 18:23 - Helpful Comment Link
these were done using a Teleplus x2 Macro converter that gives 1:1 with a 50mm lens, i used an FA50 f1.7. the converter is PK fit so no electrical contact with camera but works a treat with catch in focus. it was a breezy day so they were not happy flying for long periods and landed frequently.

Comment Image


Comment Image
odd lens or 2

Flickr
Edited by redbusa99: 12/12/2013 - 18:23
johnriley
Posted 12/12/2013 - 18:31 - Helpful Comment Link
Macro lenses used to be 1:2, with a dedicated extension tube to increase the magnification to 1:1. So a tube is the best option and it will deliver what you need.

Your lens is a true macro lens and it's corrected accordingly. It will also have a nice flat field for photographing flat subjects such as documents.
Best regards, John
Gary Hickin
Posted 12/12/2013 - 18:38 Link
You should at the long end, you may experience problems with vignetting at the wider end if your lens is not 'full frame' ie. older M and A.
Daydreamjay wrote:
I am looking at these Raynox things on eBay.

So if I get a Raynox DCR-250 and stick it on my Pentax 50-135mm f2.8 lens I'll be getting reasonable results do you think?
Edited by Gary Hickin: 12/12/2013 - 18:38
SteveEveritt
Posted 12/12/2013 - 18:39 Link
Most of these macro shots were taken with a 50mm and tubes but the big emerging dragon was taken with a 180mm on tubes.

Comment Image
Flickr
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" (John Lennon)

Add Comment

To leave a comment - Log in to Pentax User or create a new account.



Proudly supporting Pentax User

Samsung Logo Asahi Pentax Logo