Lightroom 3.0 Noise Reduction.
Posted 17/07/2010 - 12:57
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Excellent result, now feel even better as you drink the wine...
Best regards, John
Posted 17/07/2010 - 12:59
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What - all in one sitting by himself ??
let the education continue
proud owner of a couple of cameras and a few bits and bobs
proud owner of a couple of cameras and a few bits and bobs
Posted 17/07/2010 - 14:16
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That's very impressive, only the red label looks to
have suffered from the NR. Who would have thought the
2nd pic was at 6400ISO
have suffered from the NR. Who would have thought the
2nd pic was at 6400ISO
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber
Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
Posted 17/07/2010 - 14:26
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Looks v impressive. I currently use Topaz Denoise 4, which works well but takes quite a while to process each image (around 1 minute). How fast is the new Lightroom at doing the noise processing? I'm tempted to consider moving on from PSE to Lightroom because you read so many glowing reports....
Posted 17/07/2010 - 14:35
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would be interesting to see the same again with different levels of noise reduction.
see its not bad at all mike.
see its not bad at all mike.
Posted 17/07/2010 - 14:56
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Thanks Mike. I use open source/Linux platform NR solutions. Your demo has inspired me to do a compare and contrast for them. I'll post if it produces anything halfway useful.
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Posted 17/07/2010 - 15:05
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Mike-P wrote:
I have Topaz Denoise 4 as a plugin for Elements 7 and as you say it takes what seems forever to do even light processing. Lightroom does it instantly.
I also have those two.I have Topaz Denoise 4 as a plugin for Elements 7 and as you say it takes what seems forever to do even light processing. Lightroom does it instantly.
Lightroom 3 is indeed impressive and fast but I find the results off topaz 4 still better, it retains more fine details with the right settings but it's indeed very slow
Posted 17/07/2010 - 16:02
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Did you try the highest noise reduction settings in ACR as well? Would be interested how they compare.
I've always suspected that the alleged 'poor' performance of the k7 was mainly to do with the jpeg processor in the camera. In RAW there seems to be more of a level playing field, and the RAW noise graph of the K-7 on DPR's review looks about the same as the D300s.
I've always suspected that the alleged 'poor' performance of the k7 was mainly to do with the jpeg processor in the camera. In RAW there seems to be more of a level playing field, and the RAW noise graph of the K-7 on DPR's review looks about the same as the D300s.
Posted 17/07/2010 - 16:10
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Another example if I may Mike.
Taken at a street theatre in Murcia a couple of nights go.
K20D + DA* 50-135mm 1/125th, f2.8, ISO3200, available lighting only - no flash.
Original (no processing or cropping except to add copyright)

The result

Taken at a street theatre in Murcia a couple of nights go.
K20D + DA* 50-135mm 1/125th, f2.8, ISO3200, available lighting only - no flash.
Original (no processing or cropping except to add copyright)

The result

Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 17/07/2010 - 16:10
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Pentaxophile wrote:
Did you try the highest noise reduction settings in ACR as well? Would be interested how they compare.
ACR and lightroom are using the same codes as far as I know, so you won't see any difference if that's the case.
Did you try the highest noise reduction settings in ACR as well? Would be interested how they compare.
Posted 17/07/2010 - 17:01
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I've just started using Imagenomics Noiseware which is very fast on my Intel Core i7 920 rig (a couple of seconds for a full-size PEF opened in PSE using ACR) and gives brilliant results, IMHO, even at the default settings. To be fair, though, I haven't yet tried it with files shot at the extreme ISO settings that some of you have. Costs about the same as Topaz 4: I paid £65.00 for the stand-alone Pro package and PS/PSE plug-in. More details here : http://www.imagenomic.com/nwpg.aspx
Trial downloads are available but your processed image is left with a grid overlay to prevent printing. There is free 'community' version that is limited to saving files as jpgs at medium-to-good settings only.
Would love to see what it could do with your capture of the street performer, Peter. Any chance of you e-mailing a copy (reduced) for me to try it on? I could then return it or post it for you to comment on.
Jon
Trial downloads are available but your processed image is left with a grid overlay to prevent printing. There is free 'community' version that is limited to saving files as jpgs at medium-to-good settings only.
Would love to see what it could do with your capture of the street performer, Peter. Any chance of you e-mailing a copy (reduced) for me to try it on? I could then return it or post it for you to comment on.
Jon
Posted 20/07/2010 - 23:25
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Peter,
Here is my risible attempt to reproduce your image Removing the noise was a doddle, taking just a few seconds using one of the presets (I'm not sufficently familiar with the whole process yet to go 'manual'). I then spent more hours than I'm prepared to admit trying to reproduce the lighting/colour of the original using PSE before I just had accept defeat Compared with yours, my edit looks flat and lifeless and I now realise that, contrary to what I had begun to believe, my photo-manipulations skills remain essentially non-existant
If you can steel yourself sufficiently to study my version in detail, please let me know what you think of the noise reduction acheived using Noiseware.
Many thanks for letting me 'play'.
Regards,
Jon

Here is my risible attempt to reproduce your image Removing the noise was a doddle, taking just a few seconds using one of the presets (I'm not sufficently familiar with the whole process yet to go 'manual'). I then spent more hours than I'm prepared to admit trying to reproduce the lighting/colour of the original using PSE before I just had accept defeat Compared with yours, my edit looks flat and lifeless and I now realise that, contrary to what I had begun to believe, my photo-manipulations skills remain essentially non-existant
If you can steel yourself sufficiently to study my version in detail, please let me know what you think of the noise reduction acheived using Noiseware.
Many thanks for letting me 'play'.
Regards,
Jon

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Camera: PENTAX K-7
Lens: Sigma MKI 70-200mm APO EX f2.8
Exposure: 0.017 sec (1/60)
Aperture: f/8.0
Focal Length: 160 mm
ISO Speed: 6400
Original
Processed in Lightroom 3.0
I am rather impressed to be honest.