Lens Upgrade Choices


Garybaldbee

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 00:45
Hi,

I will shortly be receiving a lump sum of money and have a serious need to treat myself to something nice from part of it. As a consequence I'm looking at options to upgrade my lens collection. My main lenses (used on a K5 II) are;

Tamron 17-50 f2.8
DA 18-50 WR kit lens
DA35mm f2.4
FA 50mm f1.7
Tamron 18-250mm
DA 55-300

I was wondering what your thoughts where on how I could improve on the IQ this lot gives me (within reason my considerations will be based on IQ rather than price). I tend to shoot mostly portraits, landscapes and cityscapes and holiday walk around shots.

Given my relative lack of use of the long telephoto end of the range I suspect that the DA 55-300 is probably fine for my needs. I also love the FA 50 1.7 so that's a keeper. I've never been able to make up my mind on primes v zooms so I was thinking of keeping my options open by getting a wide and short telephoto prime to complement the DA35mm and FA50, a decent all-in-one (I don't trust the Tamron 18-250 - its pitiable in anything other than bright light and my copy is unusably soft at the wider focal lengths) and one or perhaps two high quality zooms. I like the Tamron 17-50 and would consider maybe pairing this with the DA 50-135 but I do experience an unusually high proportion of focusing mishaps with it so would also be open to an alternative good quality short zoom (the 16-85 looks interesting but then if I had that could I really justify the 50-135 given the overlap in focal length? This gets complicated!)

Oh, and a fisheye might be fun too - I had thought about the Samyang 8mm for starters.

Your thoughts and suggestions are welcome!
Last Edited by Garybaldbee on 25/03/2015 - 00:50

stu62

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 00:54
depends on how much you want to spend
a sigma 10/20
a sigma 150 /500
or a nice little macro

johnriley

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 07:54
Buying lenses is a personal thing and depends very much on your own requirements. If you want compact lenses then there are plenty of pentax options, both zoom and prime. How about the 20-40mm? Or the new 16-85mm?

If you want a fisheye then the Pentax 10-17mm is lovely and compact too.

If you want quality and size doesn't matter, then the 16-50mm and 50-135mm are the perfect pairing.

If you want primes then the Limited lenses may be for you.
Best regards, John

andy_bell

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 08:39
Sigma 10-20, or perhaps the 8-16mm
Pentax DA* 300 f/4
Pentax 1.4x Teleconverter
Pentax DA* 50-135 f/2.8
Maybe trade your Tammy 17-50 for the Sigma equivalent....

Those will keep you happy for a good while and will knock spots off nearly everthing else out there for IQ

Andy
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Last Edited by andy_bell on 25/03/2015 - 08:41

Pentaxophile

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 08:42
The 50-135 is a very very lovely lens. It's so handy having the constant f2.8. The Tamron 17-50 would complement it well, so I would persevere with that one... maybe try calibrating the focus? I found mine was slightly backfocusing but it's fine now.

The 16-85mm is tempting though, I'll give you that!
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Last Edited by Pentaxophile on 25/03/2015 - 08:43

sterretje

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 09:18
Garybaldbee wrote:

Given my relative lack of use of the long telephoto end of the range I suspect that the DA 55-300 is probably fine for my needs. I also love the FA 50 1.7 so that's a keeper. I've never been able to make up my mind on primes v zooms so I was thinking of keeping my options open by getting a wide and short telephoto prime to complement the DA35mm and FA50, a decent all-in-one (I don't trust the Tamron 18-250 - its pitiable in anything other than bright light and my copy is unusably soft at the wider focal lengths) and one or perhaps two high quality zooms. I like the Tamron 17-50 and would consider maybe pairing this with the DA 50-135 but I do experience an unusually high proportion of focusing mishaps with it so would also be open to an alternative good quality short zoom (the 16-85 looks interesting but then if I had that could I really justify the 50-135 given the overlap in focal length? This gets complicated!)

It all depends on your needs (what you feel is lacking either in FL or IQ).

First thought would be a UWA zoom (DA12-24, Sigma 10-20) or a DA15Ltd or Samyang 16/2 to expand the range.
For a prime inside your current range, consider one of the FA Limiteds (FA77 Ltd for portraits comes to mind, FA31 Ltd as a walkaround / full body portrait).

Other random thoughts:
Don't worry about overlap of 16-85 and 50-135; it just gives the convenience of a little less swapping of lenses.
I don't know what other equipment you have; a decent flash or a solid tripod are always useful additions to any setup. Maybe a panhead for stitching panoramas.
Pentax K10D + Vivitar 55/2.8 macro + Super Takumar 55/1.8 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 85/1.8 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 135/3.5 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 200/4 + Super Takumar 300/4
Pentax K100D + DA18-55ALII + DA55-300
Pentax K5 + FA31Ltd + M50/1.7 + DFA100WR + M120/2.8 (+ DA18-55WR at occasion)

Mike-P

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 09:42
Sell (or PX) what you have and buy a 16-50mm, 50-135mm, 60-250mm

Sorted.
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Papa_Lazarou

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 11:03
The 50-135 is probably my favourite zoom lens and really gives quality prime lenses a run for their money. I strongly recommend it.
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George Lazarette

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 11:07
Get rid of all the non-Pentax stuff. Go for the best lenses (Limiteds and stars). If you don't, you will always regret it.
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Gwyn

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 14:16
Mike-P wrote:
Sell (or PX) what you have and buy a 16-50mm, 50-135mm, 60-250mm

Sorted.

+1

OT good to see you pop up again George

George Lazarette

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 14:27
Gwyn wrote:
Mike-P wrote:
Sell (or PX) what you have and buy a 16-50mm, 50-135mm, 60-250mm

Sorted.

+1

OT good to see you pop up again George

Nice to see you, too!

G
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Conqueror

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 20:19
Unless you do a lot of tele work keep the 55-300mm its small light and pretty good IQ. Any upgrade comes with a significant size/weight.

The FA 31 is just outstanding. I don't have the FA 77 but it is exceptional too.

Then as mentioned already, pretty much any DA* lens... the 50-135mm, 300mm, 55mm in particular are well thought of. The 16-50mm is a harder one to recommend given that there is now the DA HD 20-40mm and DA HD 16-85mm and it also has compete with a lot of primes and wide angles in that range.

Don't forget the 100mm DFA WR... devastatingly sharp for both macro and tele work (though it can be hard to find non-macro subjects at 100mm FOV, its well worth it when you do).

If you look around right now there's some good prices on the DA* 55 and DFA 100mm WR in particular.

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Here's what I'd do, sell it all (except 55-300mm) and acquire:

20-40mm (WR, small light, solid and very good IQ)
FA 31 (low light capable, versatile FL and the best IQ/rendering)
DA* 55 or FA 77 (choose based on whether you need WR, which FL you prefer, either will probably make you sell the FA 50mm)
+
your existing 55-300mm


and possibly add a wide at some point if you will use it enough
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screwdriver222

Link Posted 25/03/2015 - 20:37
I would fill the gap in your line up and get a UWA zoom 10-20mm. Extremely useful and you will be surprise how often you use it.

Jeff
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Last Edited by screwdriver222 on 25/03/2015 - 20:37

Garybaldbee

Link Posted 26/03/2015 - 22:55
Thanks one and all for your comments and input. I think the 50-135 is a given for me. I'm interested in the number of people advocating the DA 16-50. I know that it's quality control problems are probably behind it but everything I've read suggests that optically it's little or no better than the Tamron 17-50 (I'm not too worried about weather sealing). I'm interested in the idea of the DA 15 to deal with the wide angle gap - especially with the current SRS deal!

One other question on some of the suggestions, would the DA 55 be likely to offer a significant improvement in IQ over the FA 50 1.7?

sterretje

Link Posted 27/03/2015 - 03:23
Garybaldbee wrote:
I'm interested in the number of people advocating the DA 16-50. I know that it's quality control problems are probably behind it but everything I've read suggests that optically it's little or no better than the Tamron 17-50 (I'm not too worried about weather sealing).

You can add the Sigma in that mix as well (to make it more complicated ) http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-16-50-vs-sigma-tamron-17-50mm/introdu...
Pentax K10D + Vivitar 55/2.8 macro + Super Takumar 55/1.8 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 85/1.8 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 135/3.5 + SuperMultiCoated Takumar 200/4 + Super Takumar 300/4
Pentax K100D + DA18-55ALII + DA55-300
Pentax K5 + FA31Ltd + M50/1.7 + DFA100WR + M120/2.8 (+ DA18-55WR at occasion)
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