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Posted 04/03/2011 - 09:30
1st, get a good waterproof.
2nd IMHO 10-20mm only really works well if you can close focus on some good foreground, would suggest your 16-45 would be fine for landscape and general shots.
Have no experience of superzooms, so cannot comment.
Do not understand above, surely on the trip described you want the convenience?
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2nd IMHO 10-20mm only really works well if you can close focus on some good foreground, would suggest your 16-45 would be fine for landscape and general shots.
Have no experience of superzooms, so cannot comment.
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it could become too convenient and end up staying on the camera, which is an area I don't wish to get into
it could become too convenient and end up staying on the camera, which is an area I don't wish to get into
Do not understand above, surely on the trip described you want the convenience?
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 09:38
To be honest it depends how "fussy" you are regarding IQ - I've just bought a used Tamron 18-250 and initial impressions are very positive, I think it will be an excellent travel lens.
Having said that I don't intend to use it for my landscape shots as I'm quite keen on maximum sharpness and the best colour/contrast I can achieve straight form the camera without PP - for this I use a Pentax 12-24mm or my DA 17-70 which I think are both better in this respect, although the Tamron runs the 17-70 very close for sharpness within the same focal range.
Unless you intend to go on any wildlife trips (Llyn Peninsula is best for this) you're probably not going to need the reach of the 18-250 much (I can't remember the last time I used a telephoto around North Wales) as you probably know North Wales is mostly about the scenery and beaches (don't miss Llanddwyn beach/Island on Anglesey.
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Having said that I don't intend to use it for my landscape shots as I'm quite keen on maximum sharpness and the best colour/contrast I can achieve straight form the camera without PP - for this I use a Pentax 12-24mm or my DA 17-70 which I think are both better in this respect, although the Tamron runs the 17-70 very close for sharpness within the same focal range.
Unless you intend to go on any wildlife trips (Llyn Peninsula is best for this) you're probably not going to need the reach of the 18-250 much (I can't remember the last time I used a telephoto around North Wales) as you probably know North Wales is mostly about the scenery and beaches (don't miss Llanddwyn beach/Island on Anglesey.
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 09:38
Sorry but what I meant was it becoming too much of a convenient fixture even after the holiday.
Hope this makes sense.
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Hope this makes sense.
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 12:20
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Sorry but what I meant was it becoming too much of a convenient fixture even after the holiday.
Hope this makes sense.
Sorry but what I meant was it becoming too much of a convenient fixture even after the holiday.
Hope this makes sense.
oh, I see what you mean - but what's wrong with that, surely that's the reason for buying the lens in the first place, if you find you're happy with the results and don't see the need to change lenses then it's best of both worlds!!
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 13:09
Richard, everything I've seen & heard of the Tamron 18-250 (the Pentax is the same model) has been excellent for it's range & price point.
If it's a family holiday you don't want to drive them mad sneaking off to take shots of this that and everything (sorry Wifey I'm just going to run over there *points into the distance* as it will give a great view of Bala Lake, *comes back 2 hours later*) then it's a great compromise lense.
How often it stays on your camera after the holiday is completely your decision, I can't possibly see how your other lenses could become defunct if they offer higher quality - if they don't then sell them !
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If it's a family holiday you don't want to drive them mad sneaking off to take shots of this that and everything (sorry Wifey I'm just going to run over there *points into the distance* as it will give a great view of Bala Lake, *comes back 2 hours later*) then it's a great compromise lense.
How often it stays on your camera after the holiday is completely your decision, I can't possibly see how your other lenses could become defunct if they offer higher quality - if they don't then sell them !
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 13:09
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I see what you're saying I just don't want my other lenses to become defunct.
I see what you're saying I just don't want my other lenses to become defunct.
I was pretty much in the same position with my lens line-up before buying the 18-250, as I have the DA12-24, DA17-70 & DA55-300.
After giving things some serious thought since buying the 18-250 I don't see it as replacing any of the other lenses, despite my initial thoughts of selling the DA17-70. I'll be using it just for travel, together with the 12-24, so a 2 lens solution instead of 3.
The 18-250 isn't too expensive used so I'm reasonably happy to leave it untouched most of the time and just take it along when convenience is that little bit more important that IQ. I always find it difficult deciding on lens choice and this seems the best option for my own needs, even though I'll obviously have a fair bit of overlap. I can't see me parting with the Pentax lenses as there's definitely something that little bit special about the colour/contrast they produce.
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Last Edited by simonkit on 04/03/2011 - 13:12
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 13:41
I don't think they will. The 18-250 is a great lens for what it is, but it is rather flat and needs quite a bit of PS to get the right punch.
As I assume you won't be flying, can you take it but keep your other lenses handy?
Or you could call Chris and ask him to consider renting one to you. It's not on the list now but....
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As I assume you won't be flying, can you take it but keep your other lenses handy?
Or you could call Chris and ask him to consider renting one to you. It's not on the list now but....
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 13:45
Totally agree with Mike-P.
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 13:57
Is there much difference in performance between 18-200/250 as I have seen some reasonably price 18-200's. Is the extra length & cost really necessary. As already mentioned theres still the 28-200 especially as cost could be an issue.
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 14:05
I think the consensus is yes, there is a big IQ improvement from the 18-200 to the 18-250. The added reach in real terms is pretty minimal which is reflected in the price difference.
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Posted 04/03/2011 - 14:20
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I think the consensus is yes, there is a big IQ improvement from the 18-200 to the 18-250. The added reach in real terms is pretty minimal which is reflected in the price difference.
I think the consensus is yes, there is a big IQ improvement from the 18-200 to the 18-250. The added reach in real terms is pretty minimal which is reflected in the price difference.
All the reviews I read, which was quite a few, recommended the 18-250 over other similiar options.
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I have also seen some 28-200mm.
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