KR Live veiw v Through the lens

philstaff
Posted 16/07/2011 - 15:28 Link
I took these two test shots just now and wonderd if you could see any difference in the sharpness of the results. First taken through the veiw finder and second in live veiw.
[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/philstaff/IMGP6783.jpg[/IMG]
Camera set in auto mode photo info F7.1, 1/13, iso 250 at 55mm white balance auto

[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/philstaff/IMGP6784.jpg[/IMG]

Camera set in auto mode photo info F7.1 1/8 iso 250 at 55mm white balance auto.
Mike-P
Posted 16/07/2011 - 15:40 Link
DIfficult because the first one seems slightly underexposed but going on the pics as they are now the second looks slightly sharper round the number edges.
philstaff
Posted 16/07/2011 - 15:45 Link
Yes Mike although the camera for both photos was left in auto mode they differ from 1/13 to 1/8 of a second.
Pentaxophile
Posted 16/07/2011 - 16:12 Link
Yep, the 2nd is a teenth sharper. I make lots of use of live view - more accurate AF and easier manual focussing, and of course there's no chance of mirror vibration. It also allows you to exploit more interesting angles.
bforbes
Posted 16/07/2011 - 16:32 Link
Do you need to cover the view finder when using live view, to maintain the correct exposure metering?
Anvh
Posted 16/07/2011 - 18:16 Link
bforbes wrote:
Do you need to cover the view finder when using live view, to maintain the correct exposure metering?
Good question, i actually believe it can use the sensor as well to meter since you can show the histogram during live for example.
Stefan
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philstaff
Posted 16/07/2011 - 22:32 Link
A couple more
[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/philstaff/rt.jpg[/IMG]
Through the veiw finder.

[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b399/philstaff/rv.jpg[/IMG]
Live veiw.
Regards Ian
johnriley
Posted 16/07/2011 - 23:59 Link
Did you use the 2 second self timer to ensure lack of vibration?

There's no mirror slap anyway with Live View, so the difference just maybe could be down to that.
Best regards, John
Anvh
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:02 Link
I assume it's down to focus though.
Live view is very accurate and does not have focus errors like front or back focus misalignment.
Stefan
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AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 17/07/2011 - 11:02
johnriley
Posted 17/07/2011 - 13:10 Link
At that sort of distance DOF would more than cover any but the grossest focusing errors, so that shouldn't be an issue.
Best regards, John
philstaff
Posted 17/07/2011 - 16:06 Link
johnriley wrote:
Did you use the 2 second self timer to ensure lack of vibration?

There's no mirror slap anyway with Live View, so the difference just maybe could be down to that.
Hi John yes I did use the 2nd timer on the tripod for both however I did not cover the veiw finder eye peice.
Regaeds Ian
johnriley
Posted 17/07/2011 - 16:08 Link
Hence the slight difference in exposure.

It's not down to mirror slap then, so I can't think of any explanation just now.
Best regards, John
Anvh
Posted 17/07/2011 - 16:14 Link
johnriley wrote:
At that sort of distance DOF would more than cover any but the grossest focusing errors, so that shouldn't be an issue.
The DOF also get smaller at these short distances so focussing get more critical, so any deviations in focus will be shown quite pronounced.

There is a simple way to test this.
Put the camera on a tripod and take a photo normally and then move the switch to manual focus and take a photo with live view, the focus will stay the same then so any variation is down to the use of live view then and not the difference between focus.
Stefan
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AF-540FGZ
johnriley
Posted 17/07/2011 - 16:17 Link
I don't see the distances involved here as "short distances" Stefan.
Best regards, John
philstaff
Posted 17/07/2011 - 16:22 Link
If it helps the clock was taken about 3 foot focus on the ctr winder. The garden photo focus point was on the left pillar at the front edge of the capping stone about 10 feet away.
Regards Ian

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