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richandfleur
Posted 03/02/2020 - 20:28 Link
theonenadeem wrote:

Kia at digital revs latest U tube video proclaims he has switched to Pentax, well he does own a PentaxKP,

That ones rather a mockumentary, harking back to their earlier Hong Kong based videos together.
Not entirely sure it promotes Pentax in a good light...
barkin
Posted 03/02/2020 - 22:46 Link
theonenadeem wrote:
https://youtu.be/9vpQi1LwurU kia has switched to Pentax.

Good lord! People actually watch this junk?
richandfleur
Posted 03/02/2020 - 23:59 Link
barkin wrote:
theonenadeem wrote:
https://youtu.be/9vpQi1LwurU kia has switched to Pentax.

Good lord! People actually watch this junk?

That's what I mean. I wouldn't recommend that to anyone considering buying a KP.

Most is a nostalgic trip from the early days of the Digital Rev channel, when they were doing funny stuff to get viewers.
It doesn't hold up today if you're not familiar with the channel.

KP wise I tend to agree with Lok to be honest. I don't like the way the KP looks and I would want a modern camera to have a rear touchscreen etc.
Understand that's my opinion, and believe everyone is entitled to their own. Usual story though, if the strengths match your must have requirements, then you're probably onto a winner.
Posted 04/02/2020 - 00:46 Link
KaiW ...did state that the KP used in the video was his own.

He also stated that people should not get too wrapped up in brand snobbery and shoot the camera that best suits their needs.

Some" mockery " is part of KaiW style.

After watching the video I am convinced he is (positive) and unbiased about Promoting the Pentax brand.

(HE did say mockingly in his introduction......If the title had said ...I am switching from Cannon to Sony. more people would have watched.
Posted 04/02/2020 - 00:48 Link
I rather like the KP style.
Any issue about the grip seem to have been addressed with the newK.
Jonathan-Mac
Posted 04/02/2020 - 11:04 Link
He hasn't switched, but he does seem to own the KP in the video, along with the DA 15mm & 40mm Limiteds.

I like the way the KP looks, I think it's very nice at at the much lower price I might even consider it were my K-3 not still going strong. It's the lack of upper screen, shutter limit of 1/6000s and smaller battery that put me off.
Pentax hybrid user - Digital K3, film 645 and 35mm SLR and Pentax (&other) lenses adapted to Fuji X and Panasonic L digital
Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses
MrB
Posted 04/02/2020 - 12:42 Link
Just curious, Jonathan - I understand the point about the battery, but do the tilt-screen and the electronic shutter to 1/24000 not compensate for your other two concerns?

Philip
takuman
Posted 04/02/2020 - 12:56 Link
I must add this to the mix on a personal level we have vowed this year not to buy anything unless we NEED it. Not because we WANT it
Both in our seventies and a bit late to apply that you might say.
Just passing thru
richandfleur
Posted 04/02/2020 - 21:31 Link
Lack of top LCD screen doesn't bother me. It's seems so silly to use that as a defining feature of a 'top end' camera.
I thought I'd miss it when moving to the K-30 from the K-100d but it wasn't a big deal. The rear screens are quite configurable to show the equivalent info.

Do like the Fuji top screen ones, where at least they put a modern display in it, rather than the green '80/90s calculator screen used by Pentax.

KP has it's target niche, it's just not a complete substitute for those wanting a K-3 style. This new camera looks to be the K-3 successor, so will see what that brings.
It's been 5+ years since that line of camera was last updated, so it's been a very long time coming. Tech has come a very long way during that period, so the expectations are high.
Posted 04/02/2020 - 23:03 Link
Black KP arrived today. Have had a play. Very nice (I'm comparing it mainly with my K3). The tilt out screen is excellent. Info screen is configurable. I've set the extra dial to control my ISO, so have shutter, aperture and ISO on a dial each. Have stuck a 64Gb card in it to match the 2x32GB in the K3, writing out JPG and RAW so should be fine. In photos on the web, it doesn't look that different size wise from the K3 but it certainly looks and feels smaller (neater). Settled on the medium grip (all 3 came shipped with it and the allen key). Small would be great with pancakes, medium is fine with my 17-50 and 18-35. The large grip would suit others but I found my shutter finger had to stretch out sideways (away from my middle finger) to reach the shutter (maybe just needed to adjust my other fingers, I'll try again later, just seconds to switch out grips). The AF feels quicker than the K3 but that could just be me in "new camera nirvana" I've packed the K3 away for a bit, to see how I get one with this. Many thanks for all input!
richandfleur
Posted 05/02/2020 - 02:58 Link
ShrikeMike wrote:
Black KP arrived today.

Congrats on your new purchase
Jonathan-Mac
Posted 05/02/2020 - 09:42 Link
MrB wrote:
Just curious, Jonathan - I understand the point about the battery, but do the tilt-screen and the electronic shutter to 1/24000 not compensate for your other two concerns?

Philip

The electronic shutter solves most of the problem, the exception being when there is fast movement in the image, which can produce what is referred to as rolling shutter in videos. It's caused by the sensor readout not being read at exactly the same time.

A tilt screen could partially compensate I suppose, but if you're shooting with the OVF then it's no good as you can't leave it flipped out. I suppose it's because all two DSLRs I've ever owned have upper screens and I use them all the time, I would miss them and feel like I'd down-graded if I bought a new DSLR which lacked one.
Pentax hybrid user - Digital K3, film 645 and 35mm SLR and Pentax (&other) lenses adapted to Fuji X and Panasonic L digital
Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses
MrB
Posted 05/02/2020 - 10:17 Link
I see, Jonathan.

Perhaps if you were able to use a KP for several days, those concerns might melt away, due to its other strong features and benefits! To document just one of them - for me, moving from the one e-dial of the K-r to the two of the K-5 was a big step forward in control; now the KP, with its three user-setup e-dials, can give easy instant access to all three sides of the image triangle.

But as always, of course - to each his own.

Cheers.
Philip
Edited by MrB: 05/02/2020 - 10:19
RobL
Posted 05/02/2020 - 11:41 Link
takuman wrote:
I must add this to the mix on a personal level we have vowed this year not to buy anything unless we NEED it. Not because we WANT it
Both in our seventies and a bit late to apply that you might say.

By the seventies you probably have most things you NEED other than a Zimmer frame and stair lift! Given that photography is supposed to be good for your wellbeing (unless you watch lots of YouTube) you could argue it’s a need or otherwise just accept it’s time to get one or two things you want!
takuman
Posted 05/02/2020 - 12:42 Link
I will run that by the boss and stand well back. At present I have 4 Pentax (K5, K3, K3ii and now K70 plus GR. Numerous lens. I only can use one at a time although have been along the Itchen for two hours with K3ii & K70. So I really see no NEED for another
But I thank you for your input. The boss says we need a new cooker, so looks like my want will be on the back burner😉
Just passing thru

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