K60/K600/KL...

http://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php?topic=196585.0;wap2

In French but can be translated easily...

Just to get the rumor mill flowing...


K-60 and K-600 are successors to current K-50 and K-500, but borrowing lots of tech from the K-3.

K-600 comes with a 16MP sensor.

K-60 with a 20 MP sensor. (Presumably because the 16's are runing out!)

K-L is, apparently, a ‘retro styled’ DSLR, also sports a 20 MP sensor.

Letter L may suggest it may bear some resemblance with the legendary Pentax LX, but we’ll see.

Most likely the K-L was imagined to be a model priced in between the K-60 and K-3, and will be available in both silver and black.

Expected announcement is CP+ 2014 (Feb 13th – 16th).

Happy days...

Full Qoute:

2014 Pentax will have a range of four SLR K, all recent.
The K3, KL to the retro look, K60 and K600.

Ricoh would decline the advanced of the K3 in the lower boxes, with a simplified version of the RGB meter adopted by three enclosures, an AF module simplified 10 collimators for the K60, and stabilization and simulation of AA of K3 for KL.

KL, K60 K600 would be based on the same chassis, same new electronics and the improved K50.

-The K600, resumed the bodywork of the K60 except the same back panel at the K500, only in black.
Posséderai in addition to the K500:
-A new electronics for more responsiveness.
-One AF improved through interaction with the meter while keeping the module AF the K500.
-A new meter derived from the K3.
-A display of collimators AF active highlighted.
- And always the same apsc 16 mpx sensor.
-Ofcourse with loss of finish any time.


-The K60 would have the same body the K50 with a redesigned front sheathing and a new back panel redesigned to also match the aesthetics of KL and receive a small grip, still proposed in technicolor.
Posséderai in addition to the K50:
-An apsc 20 mpx with AA sensor.
-Wifi
-A new module AF derived from that of the K3 with 17 collimators 15 crosswise and one in f2.8.
- And always finish any time.


-KL would have a different of the K60 retro style plastic body & 600 except for the equal to that of the K60 back panel. The body is different also for the use of the battery of the K3 bulkier than that of the K50 and a small LCD display on top, proposed by sylver, and black (in limited edition).
Posséderai in addition to the K60:
-An apsc 20 mpx without AA sensor.
-Stab and simulation of AA of K3
-L'AF of the K3.
-L' the K5 obtuse.
-A larger buffer.
-Dedicated pdc Tester, à l'ancienne.
-HDMI Jack.
-Finish all time.
And with such a zoom: o: o: o

Gotta love Bing translate!

Assuming this is all true ....

If they make it the actual size of an SLR,say the size of a Pentax Super A, which I'm holding in my hand right now and so wishing the K-5 was that compact ( and it's FF ) then they'll have a winner. The Nikon DF, while having a stunning sensor is still a monster.

Pentax, IMO, need to release a FF DSLR in the size of a 35mm SLR body. OK if they have to make it mirrorless like the Sony A7 to achieve that sort of size then so be it, but just do it FFS!!!

Agree Smeggy, I know you like to shoot in low light, not my bag but they have to try to cater for the indoor arena/nightclub/night time street shooters out there too!
20Mp APSC won't gain you very much if anything over a K5 but it might give you the advantages of the K3, meter and AF in a small light package and so keep you with us a while longer???

I'm not going anywhere ( much to the annoyance of some I know )


My comments weren't even thinking about High ISO performance this time. High ISO is reliant upon sensor technology and that's not entirely Pentax's fault. The problem is that the K-5 was so revolutionary in that front it's gonna take some time before another decent jump in high ISO performance comes along. it will, I remain patient.

Actually the K-5 was amazing in many ways other than high ISO performance and frankly you can get a second hand one for £300 now. We've never had it so good. I paid about £900 each for my two K-5s = £1800. They are so good I'm not even that bothered they are only worth £600 now. Fantastic value for money.

If you're prepared to put up with the hassle of a sick bag then there's the K-01 with the K-5 sensor too.

The only IQ improvement I've seen over the original Pentax K-5 for any brand is modern Full Frames like the Sony A7 and the Nikon D800



.

Hmm A7 YES!
D800 NOOOOOO!!!

D800 sensor is in no way better than the K5 and not as good as in the K3 either, Alright I just don't like it...
A7r is better but that just goes to show what can be done when there is actually something to compare to, I just think that the A7r found Nikon Out!
Nikon DF has the best sensor for what you want Smeggy in probably the worst body ever!
A7 is the best by far of those, my opinion of course!
Just don't get it with the D800, had two hated em both (Both had problems!) and I just didn't like the Pictures that came out of em, which is unusual as I've been a Nikon user for 25+ Yrs. Switched em for a D600 pairing or as I like to refer to it the D666!
Back to Pentax for a Camera that does what it says on the tin

Agree a FF Pentax learning from what Sony got right with the A7 sounds like a good way to go. Especially if the viewfinder is as good as the Fuji FT-1 is rumoured to be (closer to real time/no lag than any EVF to date). Much more interesting than bloated Df.

The two features I'd like to see on the K60, as compared to the K50, would be the return of the top LCD and battery grip. If they do that, I'll buy one for sure.

One out of two isn't bad in this day and age...
I may have read the K60 details wrong though...

Actually If true, (it may also be an old rumour, as I read somewhere this was all meant to happen by Nov 2013) I could get quite enthused by either a K60 or a KL and have decided to put off any buying decisions until after CP+...

K-l could be interesting if true .. just been reading about the new Olympus OM-D E-M10, nice looking camera with decent specifications.

Me too, I also like the Fuji XT-1, however, I still cannot see it doing everything well, the Jpegs out of Fujicams are beautiful but other than that, why should I downgrade to get a Fuji?
The Pentax weather sealing plus point appears to be being eroded daily and they are going to have to find a new hook...

I'm not in a position to think about new camera bodies (good job i love my K5 then) but i do like the sound of the K-L as a second body. Something to replace my GF1 (which i love almost as much as the K5). And perhaps one day when secondhand K3 prices drop to £300, replace the K5.
As we are talking other brands (guessing this has slipped under the radar), i agree with the Nikon Df comments. When it comes to retro cameras, Olympus and Fuji rule the roost. Some awesome looking cameras from the pair of the them. But the Sony A7R has to take the award for best executed idea.
It's all great news that Ricoh are putting so much effort into the Pentax brand.

Compactness, build quality and weather sealing. These are the big Pentax advantages that attracted me. Pentax is still ahead of Nikon And Canon for me in that regard. But Sony and Fuji are making big statements and Pentaxians are liking what they see there (as are owners of Nikons and Canons too). Olympus have said they want a piece of dslr action as well. The marketplace is becoming increasingly crowded and Ricoh will have to show their hand soon so I am sure that there is a lot of substance to those rumours. This will be an interesting year no doubt.

Agree, the problem with the A7(r) and to some extent the Fuji, though this one is an unknown quantity, is can you see it being your only camera?

I Can see them as being a supplement to, or for something when you want to slow down and/or shoot for fun but not as a replacement for a DSLR.
The Sony slows down painfully if you want to do continuous AF shooting for one thing, and I've tried an Xe-2, which was worse at tracking AF than a K5, I am undecided on either but in their own way both are great products, depends what you want them for really.
I'm currently back on the fence, as I want a very small carry everywhere system for my own personal shooting and different to the K3 which I lug about for the day job, there will always be some crossover here but if Pentax can come up with the goods so much the better, the waiting for CP+, just became unbearable...