k5 video and lens aperture

Don
Posted 14/06/2011 - 13:41 Link
did I post this here already?
link

just got up...
but that looks like a reasonanble alternative.
I am keeping my eyes open for a Pentax loupe... they had one the size of a small glass, before... I'm thinking if memory serves me correct, it will fit perfectly into a rubber plumbing pipe fitting which could then be bungie strapped onto the lcd of the camera.

anybody know if the loupe or even better the zoom loupe is still available?
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 14/06/2011 - 13:45
Algernon
Posted 14/06/2011 - 13:55 Link
A lot of loupe's only cover 35mm negs. Some do 6x7 but they are expensive.
The 5x magnifier off an old 6x6 camera should be OK.
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Algi
bretti_kivi
Posted 14/06/2011 - 14:06 Link
you can..... really, we're normally running at f4 and at shorter distances the lack of DoF is astounding.

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
Don
Posted 14/06/2011 - 16:52 Link
Algernon wrote:
A lot of loupe's only cover 35mm negs. Some do 6x7 but they are expensive.
The 5x magnifier off an old 6x6 camera should be OK.
the pentax ones are huge, big enough to use with 645 slides...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Anvh
Posted 14/06/2011 - 18:24 Link
bretti_kivi wrote:
I disagree based on practice; focus gets far more critical with Video because you regularly shoot as wide as the lens will go, meaning you have a front of eye in focus and not the back.
With wider focus length you often have less magnification so more DOF right???
Also since the video is a dynamic image (moving) you can't see the finer details so it appears faster sharp then with stills.
Stefan
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Algernon
Posted 14/06/2011 - 18:46 Link
Don wrote:
Algernon wrote:
A lot of loupe's only cover 35mm negs. Some do 6x7 but they are expensive.
The 5x magnifier off an old 6x6 camera should be OK.
the pentax ones are huge, big enough to use with 645 slides...
I doubt if they will cover 6x7? I've got a Schneider one that does 35mm, but no bigger. Mamiya did some good ones for 6x7. Here's a bit of a review link
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Algi
bretti_kivi
Posted 14/06/2011 - 19:48 Link
Anvh wrote:
bretti_kivi wrote:
I disagree based on practice; focus gets far more critical with Video because you regularly shoot as wide as the lens will go, meaning you have a front of eye in focus and not the back.
With wider focus length you often have less magnification so more DOF right???
Also since the video is a dynamic image (moving) you can't see the finer details so it appears faster sharp then with stills.
doesn't necessarily work like that as clearly as you'd think. See http://www.youtube.com/fsecurenews --> the root video is shot with a 7D and 17-55/2.8. I'm sure f4 is normally in use.

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
Anvh
Posted 14/06/2011 - 19:55 Link
You mean the close up shot at the 15 second mark?
DOF depends largely on the magnification not so much the focal length like most think, so if you've 1:1 magnification the DOF is almost just as great with a 50mm lens as with a 200mm lens.
The DOF can even be wider with the 200mm lens as with the 50mm lens depending on other lens characteristic.

But the first part of the video looks quite well in focus to my eyes.
Stefan
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DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 14/06/2011 - 19:56
bretti_kivi
Posted 14/06/2011 - 20:15 Link
it's a canon 17-55, no close focus, so there's nowhere near 1:1; max magnification according to the stats is 0,17.

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
Anvh
Posted 14/06/2011 - 21:02 Link
I don't mean it that way ^^;
If you fill the frame the same with a 70-200 lens for example you will get the same DOF, it has very little to do with the focal length but everything with the magnification.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
royd63uk
Posted 15/06/2011 - 11:30 Link
Blimey...
This is far more complicated than i thought
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Roy

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