K20d - freezing

iceblinker
Posted 04/03/2010 - 13:39 Link
2GB is the limit for SD (non SDHC), not 4GB.

Could it have been that there were no commonly available cards above 4GB at the time the K10D came out?
~Pete
stu49
Posted 04/03/2010 - 13:53 Link
I have two 4G cards in front of me that say SDHC on them !? and two 2GB cards that say SD only !

I think SD ends at 2GB, NOT 4GB !?

But were u agreeing with me Tim, or disagreeing !? I couldn't decide

The reason I asked the original question is because my Epson R300 printer won't accept anything above 1GB, in it's card slot, it just locks up !!?

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Edited by stu49: 04/03/2010 - 14:02
stu49
Posted 04/03/2010 - 13:55 Link
iceblinker wrote:
2GB is the limit for SD (non SDHC), not 4GB.

Could it have been that there were no commonly available cards above 4GB at the time the K10D came out?
Beat me to it !

Yes it could, so were they made capable of handling larger ones ??
and did this carry on into the K20 ??

Just a thought

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Edited by stu49: 04/03/2010 - 13:56
thoughton
Posted 04/03/2010 - 14:00 Link
Oops, my mistake, many apologies 2Gb it is!
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iceblinker
Posted 04/03/2010 - 14:05 Link
I would expect the K10D to work with 8 and 16GB cards as well as 4GB ones.

Hopefully a K10D big-card user will come along later to confirm or correct this. So wait for that!
~Pete
Edited by iceblinker: 04/03/2010 - 14:18
Anvh
Posted 04/03/2010 - 14:16 Link
stu49 wrote:
Just out of interest, is there an UPPER limit for SD cards in these cameras !? Just checked my K10 manual and spec stops at 4GB !!

Could it be they are not equipped to handle above 4GB ??
4GB is another threshold point, as was 1GB some years ago !!

I use 4GB and have never tried above
SD = up to 2 GB
SDHC = 4 GB up to 16 GB
SDXC = 32 GB up to 2 TB

I'm happily using a 8 GB in my K10D for 1.5 years now

I don't see why a 16 GB would be a problem, it use the same design as all the other SDHC cards.
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Edited by Anvh: 04/03/2010 - 14:18
stu49
Posted 04/03/2010 - 14:18 Link
iceblinker wrote:
I would expect the K10D to work with 8, 16 and 32GB cards as well as 4GB ones.

Hopefully a K10D big-card user will come along later to confirm or correct this. So wait for that!
There he is !!

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Edited by stu49: 04/03/2010 - 14:22
stu49
Posted 04/03/2010 - 14:20 Link
Anvh wrote:
stu49 wrote:
Just out of interest, is there an UPPER limit for SD cards in these cameras !? Just checked my K10 manual and spec stops at 4GB !!

Could it be they are not equipped to handle above 4GB ??
4GB is another threshold point, as was 1GB some years ago !!

I use 4GB and have never tried above
SD = up to 2 GB
SDHC = 4 GB up to 16 GB
SDXC = 32 GB up to 2 TB

I'm happily using a 8 GB in my K10D for 1.5 years now

I don't see why a 16 GB would be a problem, it use the same design as all the other SDHC cards.
The problem lies in the number of address lines, Stefan !!
If they haven't provided enough then it won't work !! Will it
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So much to learn... So little time !
Edited by stu49: 04/03/2010 - 14:23
RichardDay
Posted 05/03/2010 - 08:50 Link
Lynton wrote:
Hi, has anyone else experienced the following with a K20d.......

Switch it on, take a few pics and it freezes up. Switch it off (digital display stays on) and the only way to clear the problem is to remove and replace the battery. Also the pictures taken not written to the card - instead purple and yellow lines?

Thanks


forgot to mention happens only occasionally and randomly.
I had this on my K20D when it was new and it was not card dependent, but it could go for a week without problems or just a few shots. I had to return it to Pentax together with samples of the duff images.

They eventually discovered the fault was in the main board and replaced it, it has been faultless since.
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Edited by RichardDay: 05/03/2010 - 08:53
womble
Posted 05/03/2010 - 11:43 Link
Anvh wrote:
I'm happily using a 8 GB in my K10D for 1.5 years now
Me too, until I got the K20 that is.

K.
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alfiemooon
Posted 05/03/2010 - 12:57 Link
stu49 wrote:
Just out of interest, is there an UPPER limit for SD cards in these cameras !? Just checked my K10 manual and spec stops at 4GB !!

Could it be they are not equipped to handle above 4GB ??
4GB is another threshold point, as was 1GB some years ago !!

I use 4GB and have never tried above
I`ve checked through the forum search and can`t find an answer...so...(& this goes slightly O/T)

Would it be fair to say that any electrical item stating for example 4GB SDHC class 4 means that this is the upper limit card that can be "safely" used?.

And...this is true for Mini SDHC as well as 4GB is capacity and class 4 is transfer speed.

Promise to get my head around this soon...honest.

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vic cross
Posted 05/03/2010 - 13:22 Link
SD up to 4Gb. I'm sitting here now with a 4Gb card in my hand which is SD. Above that SDHC. SDHC now up to 32/64Gb. Soon new format which can go up to 2Tb. I've used 2/4/8/16Gb cards in my K10 and K7 with no problems at all. CHEERS Vic.
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polchraine
Posted 05/03/2010 - 13:56 Link
vic cross wrote:
SD up to 4Gb. I'm sitting here now with a 4Gb card in my hand which is SD. Above that SDHC. SDHC now up to 32/64Gb. Soon new format which can go up to 2Tb. I've used 2/4/8/16Gb cards in my K10 and K7 with no problems at all. CHEERS Vic.
I very much doubt if the 4GB is an SD card as the specification only goes to 2GB.

If the manufacturer is claiming it to be 4GB and SD then it will be outside the standard and will not be permitted to use the logo.

Similarly, with the 64GB (I presume you mean Bytes and not bits) the standard for SDHC states that it only covers capacities from 4GB to 32GB.

Can you provide an image or link to thoise cards.
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vic cross
Posted 05/03/2010 - 20:28 Link
So OK I put a small b where a capital B should have been!. The 4GB is from MYMEMORY and shows up on my new little (Canon 95 is) as 3.7? GB when formatted. and OK the present max. for SDHC is 32GB but I've read somewhere that the max for SDHC will be 64GB. Then the format will change and then it will go to 2TB. All I know is I have cards with 4GB SD on them and they work perfectly. I'm not absolutely sure but I believe that one of the small computers (notebooks) already has 64GB solid state HDD. Surely this is the equivalent of a 64GB SDHC? CHEERS Vic.
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iceblinker
Posted 05/03/2010 - 20:42 Link
A 4GB "SD" card is SDHC, but I don't see anything wrong with calling them "SD cards", as I'm sure most of us do already.
~Pete

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