K10D failure with pop-up flash

Mannesty
Posted 14/01/2008 - 10:57 Link
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I suppose getting the timing circuitry accurate enough might be too difficult/expensive.
Yes, very probably.
Although if you think what it needs to be able to do to achieve a choice of leading and trailing curtain sync, I'm not sure I'm being all that unreasonable.
My own opinion is that there are working alternatives in the form of radio/IR slave triggers available at reasonable cost. There is no need at present to elevate the cost of camera bodies and flash units even further by adding functionality that most users will not need or use.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
ChrisA
Posted 14/01/2008 - 11:20 Link
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I suppose getting the timing circuitry accurate enough might be too difficult/expensive.
Yes, very probably.
Although if you think what it needs to be able to do to achieve a choice of leading and trailing curtain sync, I'm not sure I'm being all that unreasonable.
My own opinion is that there are working alternatives in the form of radio/IR slave triggers available at reasonable cost. There is no need at present to elevate the cost of camera bodies and flash units even further by adding functionality that most users will not need or use.
Agreed. Wireless flash isn't exactly an obscure feature that few people will use, though.

I'm just griping at the way they've implemented it - although if it would have been much more expensive to do it as I imagined they had, it probably wouldn't be worth it.
Don
Posted 14/01/2008 - 12:40 Link
bluetooth wireless flash, with software to control from your computer.
able to adjust 1-100 pentax flash units (each independantly) and save your multiple settings!
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
McBrian
Posted 14/01/2008 - 12:52 Link
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bluetooth wireless flash, with software to control from your computer.
able to adjust 1-100 pentax flash units (each independantly) and save your multiple settings!


Brilliant idea, a flashlight mixer deck (Patent Pending)
Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
SPB
Posted 14/01/2008 - 18:20 Link
http://homepage.mac.com/stevenbutterworth/Sites/tests/index.html

Here I have placed a test html page. Starting with the first image taken at F32.

If you click each picture, you get the file name which tells you the F stop used. Also it gives the meta data.

I used one umbrella on the right, one flash on the left pointing directly at subject. Also pop up flash on Pentax K100D.

Which do you say is the best image.

My favourite one is at F16. But which one is "correct"?
Mannesty
Posted 14/01/2008 - 18:44 Link
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http://homepage.mac.com/stevenbutterworth/Sites/tests/index.html

Here I have placed a test html page. Starting with the first image taken at F32.

If you click each picture, you get the file name which tells you the F stop used. Also it gives the meta data.

I used one umbrella on the right, one flash on the left pointing directly at subject. Also pop up flash on Pentax K100D.

Which do you say is the best image.

My favourite one is at F16. But which one is "correct"?
Link doesn't work for me.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
SPB
Posted 14/01/2008 - 18:49 Link
sorry it will in a minute or two with explanation. It is up now. All shots are different only in F-Stop from F32 to 5.6, ISO 200, 1/125 using as I said one brolly on right hand side with flash coming through it. Same flash pointed at subject directly on left side. Pentax K100D and pop up flash triggering the other 2 Pentax 360FGZ's.

You just roll over the thumbnails, just on my website.
Mannesty
Posted 14/01/2008 - 18:52 Link
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sorry it will in a minute or two with explanation
Yes it works now, bit it's soooooo sloooowwww.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
SPB
Posted 14/01/2008 - 18:56 Link
Yep I know it is slow, sorry didn't want to reduce in size just for a test. Usually when I put images up they are reduced to 100kb or thereabouts.

So which do you like the best?

I prefer F16 although I like the F32 one too.

My Flash meter suggested F32 at ISO 200, and also showed + 2/3 OVER.
Mannesty
Posted 14/01/2008 - 19:04 Link
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Yep I know it is slow, sorry didn't want to reduce in size just for a test. Usually when I put images up they are reduced to 100kb or thereabouts.

So which do you like the best?

I prefer F16 although I like the F32 one too.

My Flash meter suggested F32 at ISO 200, and also showed + 2/3 OVER.
I agreee with you, the f16 shot looks best on my monitor.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
SPB
Posted 14/01/2008 - 19:05 Link
Thanks for that confirmation. So I am on the right tracks. I am looking forward to picking up the second light stand and umbrella.
stevejcoe
Posted 14/01/2008 - 19:07 Link
I agree F16 looks best on my monitor too
Mannesty
Posted 14/01/2008 - 19:10 Link
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Thanks for that confirmation. So I am on the right tracks. I am looking forward to picking up the second light stand and umbrella.
I'd say you were on the right track. Good luck with it.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
SPB
Posted 14/01/2008 - 19:15 Link
Ok thanks guys, I will take the page down in the morning, so it won't be available any more. I am pleased to have tried it and had such fast confirmation. Now the real thing begins in a week or two when I do a family of 4 portrait. I did it before Christmas, but want to go back and do better.
SPB
Posted 15/01/2008 - 10:08 Link

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