K10 'shift and tilt' lens choices(?)

Are there any shift and tilt lenses for pentax 'k' mount. The 'tilt' is the bit I need.

I know that 'shift' lenses were once made by pentax but these look very rare now to me.

I do already know about the ARAX 35mm lens.

Any other tilt lenses that anyone knows about please?

Didnt you see this earlier thread?

https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4282

No doubt this is the man to ask

Just found a Pentax one on e-bay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-Pentax-28mm-f3-5-Shift-Lens-SUPER-SHARP-NICE_W0QQitem...

'Spider and Roger,...thank you for your replies, but unless i'm missing something I think these lenses are 'shift' only items as neither mention any 'tilt' facility. I am reliably informed that most editing software has provision for the correction of perspective, so it would seem that these lenses are more or less obsolete for digital use. As yet, digital 'tilt' is still very much in it's infancy so a 'tilt' lens will go some way towards filling in for lost camera movements.

What I wouod like to know is; did Pentax make any 'tilt' lenses and/or are there any others for Pentax 'k' mount.

Or, is this the only one;

http://www.araxfoto.com/specials/tilt-shift-35/

Is it?
I would've thought the maths were fairly straight foward...
The packages that I've used are PTLens, and Silkypix, but then I didn't pay too much attention to the tilt factor.
Matt

"........I would've thought the maths were fairly straight foward... "

You may well be right,.......one of the numerically dyslexic here I'm afraid!!

However, while it's easy enough to correct perspective digitally in the editing software it remains impossible to alter depth of field / focus easily. The only way with most of the common editors is to use several images with different focus points from the same camera position to make up one 'sharp' image.

There IS software which can synthesize a sharp area from an unsharp one and thus 'increase' depth of focus,....I read a review of it on the web a few months back but it looked tricky to use,...to the extent that I can't remember what it was called!

Hi Viewfinder,

Don't forget that with the much smaller sensor, compared to 6x6 or sheet film, you'd get much more depth of field at all apertures anyway - if you want the tilt to maximise DoF that is...

If you're looking to use it to control the plane of focus to minimise DoF, that's a different matter. You can replicate to some extent in image processors, but there's usually something that gives it away.

Dan

Dan,..thanks for the reply,

".........compared to 6x6 or sheet film, you'd get much more depth of field at all apertures..."

Yes!......thats one of the bits I'm really looking forward to with a K10

Hi Viewfinder

Don't know if you read my posts on this subject regarding shift lens options for my Pentax 645 - I'd been looking around at various options for ages trying to get the max movements without having to go up to 5x4.

In short there are no 35mm tilt lenses that I've seen that will fit the K10D. I tried the 67 shift lens on my 645 via the adapter but therein lies another problem which would be common to the K10D - the crop factor... I've got the 'equivalent' problem with the 67 lens maintaining it's 75mm focal length which as you know is a standard lens in 645 format. Not that great for what I wanted the shift for...

There is another option on the 645 though - see below and if you find the right one they tilt too

http://www.hartblei.com/

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/hartblei45.shtml

I guess it is one of the few areas where the Pentax lens line-up is lacking, especially when you compare against Canon's 3 offerings!

Will

Nope.
No tilting lenses from Pentax, only shifting. One 28/3.5 for the 23x36
K-mount, and one 75/4.5 for the 6x7 system, usable on the 645
with the help of an adapter.

I think so. Schneider is making one "Schneider PC 28/2.8 Super Angulon"
that can be made to order with K-mount, but as far as I understand this is
also a pure shift lens with no tilting.

The shift 28 I have for sale will likely end up on eBay next week,
I'll keep you posted, you might strike a bargain.

-- MW

Hartblei do a number of tilt-shift lenses in K mount, available new from a couple of sellers on ebay or presumably direct, though their website is quite out of date.

I have an ARSAT 85mm tilt/shift which looks to be a similar design to the ARAX. The focal length is too long for architecture, but it would make a nice portrait lens. It isn't that sharp (by Pentax standards), and it didn't focus close enough for my purposes, so it doesn't get much use.

If you're wanting to do close-up work there are also bellows options. Noblex do a tilt-shift bellows with interchangeable mounts, but it's quite pricey. SpeedGraphic have them in the UK. Zoerk do a modular tilt/shift system which is geared more to macro work, but again it's a little pricey (but then so are tilt-shift lenses). There are also M42 tilt-shift bellows out there, but they're very hard to come by.

Note that all the above options will require manual metering, and in-camera metering may not be reliable. My *istD is really thrown off by tilt.

Steve

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