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Chrism8
Posted 28/06/2016 - 19:57 Link
Would u upgrade from a K5iis to a K1 straight yes or no please based on performance.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8

Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2

K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
joostdh
Posted 28/06/2016 - 20:51 - Helpful Comment Link
I did this upgrade but honestly can't answer this question because "performance" is such a broad definition. It's a lot quicker in use if that's what you mean.
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stu62
Posted 28/06/2016 - 21:06 Link
its a q like would you upgrade from a point and shoot to a dslr lol
bforbes
Posted 28/06/2016 - 21:27 - Helpful Comment Link
yes
johnriley
Posted 28/06/2016 - 22:08 - Helpful Comment Link
It's a big step in various ways, so absolutely yes.

From a K-3 to a K-1 would be a different issue.
NaimKhan
Posted 28/06/2016 - 22:34 Link
johnriley wrote:
It's a big step in various ways, so absolutely yes.

From a K-3 to a K-1 would be a different issue.

So isn't there much difference between the K3 and K1, John?
K10D
Posted 28/06/2016 - 22:40 Link
Depends on how "you" use your camera and what you need that your not getting with the K5 IIs.

Best regards
a lullaby will induce sleep....or tears.
johnriley
Posted 28/06/2016 - 23:58 - Helpful Comment Link
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So isn't there much difference between the K3 and K1, John?

It's not so much that as them being very different propositions. For example, the K-1 is superb, but full frame lenses will cost serious money and are big and heavy. By comparison, the K-3 is smaller, lighter and we probably have the lenses to go with it. So there are all sorts of factors apart from quality that come into it.

Sue bought a K-3 because she wanted the pop up flash and it was the right weight for her. The K-1 was too heavy. I bought the K-1 because I really liked the lenses and the camera. Having reviewed the lenses for EPZ I didn't want to send them back, but back they went and I bought the camera and the 28-105mm for starters. Next up will be the 15-30mm, but it's more serious money and will have to wait for now.

Of course, if the truth be known, we both fell in love with those cameras at the NEC and simply wanted them. There's nothing wrong in wanting things.....
Best regards, John
Chrism8
Posted 29/06/2016 - 06:32 Link
Superb, thanks for the comment's and straight yes's so far
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8

Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2

K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
K10D
Posted 29/06/2016 - 07:58 Link
Chrism8 wrote:
Superb, thanks for the comment's and straight yes's so far

Would there have been even the slightest chance that it would have been a no?

I'm a little confused at your OP Chris. I see that you use a 654Z and then asked other their opinion on the performance of two very different cameras.

Am I reading this wrong, as from what I've seen of your work you don't come across as some one who needs input from others as far as selecting camera kit.

Best regards
a lullaby will induce sleep....or tears.
Chrism8
Posted 29/06/2016 - 08:22 Link
Thanks K10D,

I'm in two minds whether to upgrade from the K5iis to a K1, don't particularly need the full frame format as the 645 is used for landscapes, portraits etc,

From a bird in flight shoot at the weekend, if the K1's focussing response is faster, which from comments on this thread and others I've looked at back that up, I wished to seek an opinion before finally making the choice to upgrade.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax DFA 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax DFA* 24 - 70 F2.8

Samyang 14mm F2.8, Pentax DFA* 70-200 F2.8, Pentax A 50mm F1.2

K3iii + K3ii + K5iis converted to IR, Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Pentax 55 - 300 F4.5 / F5.6 PLM
LennyBloke
Posted 29/06/2016 - 08:56 - Helpful Comment Link
Chrism8 wrote:
Thanks K10D,

I'm in two minds whether to upgrade from the K5iis to a K1, don't particularly need the full frame format as the 645 is used for landscapes, portraits etc,

From a bird in flight shoot at the weekend, if the K1's focussing response is faster, which from comments on this thread and others I've looked at back that up, I wished to seek an opinion before finally making the choice to upgrade.

You're right to seek the opinions of actual users (after the initial excitement period is over) as it's the little comments and notes that often reveal how much of a difference there is for the particular fields of photography that we each do. I rarely shoot any action stuff (Birds, Motor sport, etc.) so the advances in AF response would make little difference to me, but the appeal of using Full frame lenses and benefiting from the depth of field make it quite tempting.
LennyBloke
Simonmac
Posted 29/06/2016 - 09:13 Link
Based purely on performance? No.

Cheers!
stub
Posted 29/06/2016 - 09:19 - Helpful Comment Link
Ive not used a K1 yet. But having seen the reviews. Its not much of an improvement in performance. So for the exercise of shooting birds I too would say its a no...
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joostdh
Posted 29/06/2016 - 09:54 - Helpful Comment Link
In day to day use the K-1 is a nicer camera to use than the K-5 IIs. The interface is very responsive, the third dial is very useful as is the screen. Obviously the viewfinder is bigger too which makes MF slightly easier though I personally never had any trouble with crop cameras.

Honestly though: the biggest difference is lenses. I already had a lot of FF lenses so there wasn’t much adjustment in gear perse. But every lens now has a different rol. On crop I used my F28 a lot, the FA43 has taken that role, which used to be a wide portret kind of lens on crop.

I do slightly miss the DA 18-135mm which is smaller and has more reach than the 28-105 on FF. And looking to replace the DA50-135 I’ve come to realise how compact it is compared to 70-200mm lenses that are available.

On the other hand, none of my older Pentax glass has disappointed, quite the opposite actually. The FA85 is obviously fantastic, always a bit too tele on crop but now back in its true role. But also modest lenses like the A50 Macro are surprisingly fantastic on FF.

Personally I enjoy the shallower DOF FF provides but I can say I’m taking better pictures now. Also there are a lot of great deals on secondhand Pentax DA lenses.

And regarding the physical size and weight: you get accustomed to the larger size and weigh very fast and I don’t have a crop DSLR any more so I’m not reminded of the difference. The excellent grip it has helped adjusting too. I thought I would use my K-01 more for the smaller/lighter package it provides but I’m still in a honeymoon mood and take the K-1 everywhere I go.
Pentax K-1| D-FA 24-70mm | FA 43mm F1.9 Ltd | FA* 85mm F1.4 | D-FA 100mm F2.8 Macro WR | DA* 200mm F2.8 | Pentax AF 540FGZ

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