K-5II vs K-5IIs


MrB

Link Posted 01/01/2013 - 17:37
Cheers, Dave - it seems that you are going to have a really exciting New Year!

All the best.
Philip

Smeggypants

Link Posted 01/01/2013 - 21:03
davidstorm wrote:
That image looks very clean for ISO 3200 Daz and the colour rendition is great. I doubt whether my K-5 with AA filter could equal that for ISO 3200. Maybe everyone's been focussing too much on whether or not the IIs is sharper than the variants with the AA filter? Maybe there are other 'real world advantages' of the IIs as well as increased detail? Your image above might suggest this, but before I conclude on this point I will add one more thing (I can hear Smeggy's reply ringing in my head before I type this): No conclusion can be reached unless we have an identical shot with a K-5 that has the AA filter!!!!

However, judging by some of the shots you have posted recently and also by feedback I have had from someone who owns a IIs and several 'normal' K-5's, the output from the IIs appears to be noticeably 'cleaner' and more detailed.

I'm sure this won't be the end of the debate!

Regards
David

Can't argue with the ISO performance of the K-5 ( all models) . Here's one I took at ISO12800 with K-5 MkI - click on it for bigger sized display



[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Last Edited by Smeggypants on 01/01/2013 - 21:04

davidstorm

Link Posted 01/01/2013 - 21:42
It's a great image and also very clean - especially at 12800, but I'm sure you will agree that it can't be used for comparison purposes. Does anyone who owns both a K-5 and a K-5IIs have two virtually identical shots taken at high ISO and processed exactly the same?

I don't think this debate will be settled until there are more K-5IIs owners out there.

Regards
David
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 01/01/2013 - 22:44
davidstorm wrote:
It's a great image and also very clean - especially at 12800, but I'm sure you will agree that it can't be used for comparison purposes.

It wasn't ever intended to make any comparisons between cameras. Just to reinforce cool ISO performance of the K-5 in addition to Betty's Pic

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Does anyone who owns both a K-5 and a K-5IIs have two virtually identical shots taken at high ISO and processed exactly the same?

I don't think this debate will be settled until there are more K-5IIs owners out there.

Regards
David

Now for your expected answer ...... Yes both DPReview and Imaging resources have comparisons at all ISOs right up to 51200.

What is producing more of the same thing going to achieve. I believe it was Einstein who said: "Insanity doing exactly the same thing repeatedly and each time expecting a different result"



Anyway I thought your own feelings were made when you said you could see "significant differences", with the IIs being "much more detailed". And also you're mate says the IIs is 'miles better' Surely that's all that matters?
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

bettyswolloks

Link Posted 01/01/2013 - 22:58
My god man, just let it go!
I'm only 4fut3, but I look a lot bigger from a distance

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Smeggypants

Link Posted 01/01/2013 - 23:38
bettyswolloks wrote:
My god man, just let it go!

LOL
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

McGregNi

Link Posted 02/01/2013 - 00:29
Surely those vicious claws and spikes in Smeggys shot would be even sharper with a K5IIs.
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 02/01/2013 - 00:42
No doubt that with a K5-IIs you could see them from 3 miles away
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

MrB

Link Posted 02/01/2013 - 08:58
Great photo, Smeggy. And whether it had been taken with K-5 I, II or IIs, it would still be crystal clear simply from his facial expression what the Predator thinks about the appearance of the Emperor in new clothes on this forum.

Happy New Year.
Philip
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