K-3 ?

Horst
Posted 29/07/2013 - 10:16 Link
Quote:
Alan wrote:
Personally I also benefit from the extra reach of APSc for wildlife.
APS does not have an extra reach with over FF with a Given lens.

If you crop the full frame to the same dimensions as APC, you'll get the same reach.

Regards, Horst
Edited by Horst: 29/07/2013 - 10:17
Algernon
Posted 29/07/2013 - 12:41 Link
You can do the same with a 10" x 8" View Camera......
Crop the 10" x 8" plate down to 35mm
It's not the same thing though
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Horst
Posted 29/07/2013 - 14:56 Link
You are right, because the 10 x 8 film has the same resolution as a 35mm film.

However with a digital FF the logic is, that the resolution is much greater, say 30000 pixels and when you crop it to the APC size,it will still have 16000 pixels or there a bouts. This leaves the resolution after cropping the same as using the the APC only. So you didn't loose anything, except the wider angle of the FF.

Question: Why are so many APC users so against FF?

Regards, Horst
jules
Posted 29/07/2013 - 15:13 Link
Why are so many APC users so against FF?


I don't think anyone is set against it per se, just those that feel that they don't want or need it, are just as vociferous as those who feel they do...

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Edited by jules: 29/07/2013 - 15:20
cabstar
Posted 29/07/2013 - 15:27 Link
It appears to ff discussions become more heated than anything else.
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tyronet2000
Posted 29/07/2013 - 15:52 Link
cabstar wrote:
It appears to ff discussions become more heated than anything else.
But there are FF options out there, you just have to change systems
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Algernon
Posted 29/07/2013 - 16:22 Link
Ricoh (who own my soul ) don't make a FF so FF is
off topic in this Pentax (brand name used by Ricoh) forum

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McGregNi
Posted 29/07/2013 - 16:23 Link
If some are lucky then we may be faced with a real choice before we even know how to make the choice ! K5II or K5IIs anybody?
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jules
Posted 29/07/2013 - 17:01 Link
McGregNi wrote:
If some are lucky then we may be faced with a real choice before we even know how to make the choice ! K5II or K5IIs anybody?
And so the worm can slowly creaks open again...

Seriously loving my K5/Reborn

I'd sooner see some more glass before any new body.
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MattyH
Posted 29/07/2013 - 18:32 Link
645n next for me, and that's what I call full frame.........but will not be able to hide that purchase from you know who
giofi
Posted 29/07/2013 - 19:41 Link
I think questions about the "K-3" or whatever the next Pentax camera will be are very relevant on this forum, whether the next camera will be FF or not.

I also think it is natural that there is a fare share of complaining on this Forum, here are people who care about Pentax and therefore also share their concerns and complaints.

The fact is that many of us have invested, or plan to invest, significant amounts of money on lenses and other accessories. At the moment you do that without any idea on what is your future roadmap, in fact we do not even know for sure there will be a future for the K-mount.... (although we can assume so). This is not a very good place to be and I think this is showing in lens prices. Except for older lenses, which can be increasingly (and easily) used on other systems.
jules
Posted 29/07/2013 - 20:13 Link
Oh Giorgio, don't get me second guessing my return to the fold

Seriously the bottom line is that we have no idea what Ricoh has planned for the K mount, only that it's their descision what happens next. I have high hopes but I guess we could all be wrong? As long as it's not the same as Sony's takeover of Minolta, the A900 was a tour de force of design and function, every inch of it cried Konica Minolta and quality, since then they seem to have been flinging mud at the problem to see what sticks, they have integrated and disbanded pretty much all of the DSLR Design departments they inherited and have spread it to the four winds, a lot of the DSLR guys are now designing compacts and vice versa. However they may have just invented the sucsessor to the DSLR I believe but they've gone a messy way about it. Minolta Owners get no support anymore despite Sony promises to the contrary, and I suppose some would argue,why should they? SLT Owners are starting to wonder what they got into, Nex owners barely get time to learn how to use their Cameras before a new model appears, it's a conveyer belt juggernaut, monster and a disjointed, convoluted, confused, one at that...

I like Pentax, I like their design philosophy, and I want that name on the front of my Camera, whatever it says on the bottom...
Cheers Jules...

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Edited by jules: 29/07/2013 - 20:16
mille19
Posted 29/07/2013 - 20:30 Link
I'd be happy if Pentax released a 24mp APC camera similar to the Nikon 7100, which is what I would go for, and a 36mp FF.
Hopefully this would keep everyone happy
Edited by mille19: 29/07/2013 - 20:30
Posted 29/07/2013 - 20:44 Link
mille19 wrote:
I'd be happy if Pentax released a 24mp APC camera similar to the Nikon 7100, which is what I would go for, and a 36mp FF.
Hopefully this would keep everyone happy
That is pretty much what I'm hoping for, but that would mean the savings having to build for a wee bit longer, and people keep putting tasty glass in the classified
Pint o' rough & a game o' darts anyone
vjacesslav
Posted 30/07/2013 - 00:54 Link
Itīs difficult to say, but Pentax already have 37Mpx camera. 645D
Expectations are for FF 24Mpx
APS-C could be 24Mpix too, but we do not have such a good glass for it.
I am happy enough with 16Mpx...

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