Is SR better on the K7? a few "test"shots

Lance B
Posted 11/07/2009 - 07:53 Link
As some of you may know, I picked up my K7 earlier this week. The only chance I have had to give it a real blast was late one afternoon at my parents house down the south coast from Sydney. They were feeding the kookaburra's some fresh meat and I was able to get these photos.

The thing I was wondering is if the SR works better on the K7. Here are some pics I took today with the K7 and the DA*60-250 f4 and when you apply the 1/focal length x 1.5 rule, there are some impressive results. All handheld with no support.

All DNG files converted in Capture One pro, so there may be more noise than with a dedicated PEF file. Unfortunately, I cannot do PEF as there are no RAW converters (that I know of) that will convert K7 PEF's other than the Pentax's own software.

K7 + DA*60-250 f4 @ f5.6, 250mm, 1/30sec ISO200 = 3.5 stops extra

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K7 + DA*60-250 f4 @ f5.6, 250mm, 1/20sec ISO200 = 4+ stops extra

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K7 + DA*60-250 f4 @ f5.6, 250mm, 1/15sec ISO200 = 4.5 stops extra

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Crop of above. As you can see, I focused on the beak more than the eye, but it is still sharp at 4.5 stops of extra handholdability!

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K7 + DA*60-250 f4 @ f5.6, 250mm, 1/13sec ISO200 = almost 5 stops extra!!

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Crop of above at almost 5 stops extra!!

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Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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PentaxBabe
Posted 11/07/2009 - 08:30 Link
LanceB,

I have no idea what you are talking about, but having spent most of this morning trying to get some in focus shots of Goldfinches without success, I love your pictures
aminstar
Posted 11/07/2009 - 08:40 Link
These images are pretty good . And of course the 60-250 helped the quality but looking at the shutter speeds you used I am absolutely amazed, handheld with those shutter speeds


PentaxBabe wrote:
LanceB,

I have no idea what you are talking about, but having spent most of this morning trying to get some in focus shots of Goldfinches without success, I love your pictures
PentaxBabe, did you use tripod or monopod while trying to shoot the goldfinches? It helps tremendously using tripod, unless you have steady hands like a few members here we know that shoot pretty sharp images without one. My bird shots come out pretty rubbish without tripod.
Edited by aminstar: 11/07/2009 - 09:04
PentaxBabe
Posted 11/07/2009 - 08:44 Link
Amin,

I don't want to steal Paul's thread for my problem. Will send you a txt.

Thanks

J
Clarky
Posted 11/07/2009 - 09:07 Link
Lance, great shots and sharp,

I haven't had any time this week and the weather as you know hasn't been helpful,

Initial thoughts are very good. Have you tried any video yet : picture quality looks very good.

BTW what part of the Sth Coast were these pics taken : My parents also live down the sth coast "Wonoona" and they get a few Kookaburras in there yard, as well as a host of Cockatoos and parrots.
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Mike-P
Posted 11/07/2009 - 09:23 Link
Lance B wrote:


All DNG files converted in Capture One pro, so there may be more noise than with a dedicated PEF file. Unfortunately, I cannot do PEF as there are no RAW converters (that I know of) that will convert K7 PEF's other than the Pentax's own software.


Lightroom recently got an update to handle the K-7 files.
Hardgravity
Posted 11/07/2009 - 09:29 Link
This is what we want1

Good clear shots and sharp detail. Sorry I pestered you earlier this week about pics lance, well worth waiting for.

Did you get the new 18-55WR lens or just the body?
Cheers, HG

K110+DA40, K200+DA35, K3 and a bag of lenses, bodies and other bits.

Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...

PPG entries.
Lance B
Posted 11/07/2009 - 11:56 Link
PentaxBabe wrote:
LanceB,

I have no idea what you are talking about, but having spent most of this morning trying to get some in focus shots of Goldfinches without success, I love your pictures
Thank you for your kind words on my photos.

As Amin has suggested, a monopod or tripod will help. Having said that, it does restrict you a bit but also I gather these birds will flit around quite a bit and a tripod will be too constricting. A monopod will help a little but the main thing is to use a very fast shutter speed, like 1/500 or 1/1000 especially if you are using a long lens like a 300mm. This will mean you may need to up the ISO to 800 and shoot in reasonable light.
Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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Edited by Lance B: 11/07/2009 - 11:56
Lance B
Posted 11/07/2009 - 11:58 Link
Clarky wrote:
Lance, great shots and sharp,

I haven't had any time this week and the weather as you know hasn't been helpful,

Initial thoughts are very good. Have you tried any video yet : picture quality looks very good.

BTW what part of the Sth Coast were these pics taken : My parents also live down the sth coast "Wonoona" and they get a few Kookaburras in there yard, as well as a host of Cockatoos and parrots.
Thanks for the nnice comments, Steve.

My parents live in Vincentia and like your parents, they feed the kookaburras, butcher birds, lorrikeets, king parrots etc on their back balcony.
Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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Lance B
Posted 11/07/2009 - 12:00 Link
Mike-P wrote:
Lance B wrote:


All DNG files converted in Capture One pro, so there may be more noise than with a dedicated PEF file. Unfortunately, I cannot do PEF as there are no RAW converters (that I know of) that will convert K7 PEF's other than the Pentax's own software.


Lightroom recently got an update to handle the K-7 files.
Thanks for the info, Mike, but unfortunately, I do not use Lightroom.

I do use Capture One Pro and Silkypix and Silkypix has released their trial Pro version which now does K7 PEF's, so I have downloaded that. Looks great so far.
Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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Lance B
Posted 11/07/2009 - 12:02 Link
Hardgravity wrote:
This is what we want1

Good clear shots and sharp detail. Sorry I pestered you earlier this week about pics lance, well worth waiting for.

Did you get the new 18-55WR lens or just the body?
No problems about the request, Dave. My pleasure to help out if I can.

Thank you for the kind appraisal, too.

I only purchased the body. If I were to purchase a lens with the body, it would have been the DA17-70 f4.
Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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alig
Posted 11/07/2009 - 12:07 Link
Wow Lance, amazingly sharp images, very impressive.

Shows how good the K7 and the photographer is.

ali
Cheers

Ali

ist* DS & Ricoh GR
Lance B
Posted 11/07/2009 - 13:35 Link
alig wrote:
Wow Lance, amazingly sharp images, very impressive.

Shows how good the K7 and the photographer is.

ali
You are too kind. Thank you for your nice comments, Ali.
Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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George Lazarette
Posted 11/07/2009 - 14:29 Link
alig wrote:
Wow Lance, amazingly sharp images, very impressive.

Shows how good the K7 and the photographer is.

ali
Creep!

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Mike-P
Posted 11/07/2009 - 14:31 Link
George Lazarette wrote:
alig wrote:
Wow Lance, amazingly sharp images, very impressive.

Shows how good the K7 and the photographer is.

ali
Creep!

G
ROTFL .....

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