Is It Natural?


Link Posted 01/11/2012 - 23:49
Just read some more of this thread.

I have some comments on the 'brain' - I come from an Audio engineering background , amongst other things and our brains will compensate for an uneven frequency response.

For example I could play a pecie of music with the HF boosted and at first it will sound very trebly. but after a while the brain compensates. Take away the HF boost and return it to flat response and it'll sound very dull for a while until the brain readjusts

The Brain also does this with colour. Many years ago as an experiment ( I was bored ) on a long car journey I held a peice of blue lighting gel in front of my face ( no I wasn't driving ) for a few hours.

Got to the destination and removed the lighting Gel. For about 20 minutes I couldn't see blue. My brain had compensated for the heavy blue colour cast and 'equalised' it out. And then it took some time to recover.
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Link Posted 02/11/2012 - 00:28
Hey, that sounds almost exactly like what I was saying before! I think that we compensate out the 'cast' on different surfaces based on our perception of the dominant natural tone on each object - eg the stonework in Davids picture. It is when the camera has not done this, spreading a single cast across the whole picture indiscrimimately, that we start to find it 'unnatural'.

Good to find some common ground
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Link Posted 02/11/2012 - 09:46
I like the second shot, the first one was a bit purply. What settings on your camera did you use to take this please?
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Link Posted 02/11/2012 - 10:54

1. Natural or not this is a cracking shot David - I note the info given above about the split toning and this follows on from a conversation we had at Martin Mere in that the options exist in post processing so why not use them.

2. I don't think that it matters at all unless you were to represent it as being unprocessed when it is not and you have not so no problem - again it's a great shot and one I would be proud of but 4am - if I do have that kind of commitment I am yet to locate it

Dare I say it but surely 'artistic licence' applies to photo's as well.


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Link Posted 02/11/2012 - 12:13
If your aspiring to Shaun's or marklj's stuff (and there's no reason you shouldn't) then PP is going to play a very big part.

are you saying that Mark and shaun pp all of there photos and that none are Natural shots they are made in photoshop?? i think thats a bit of green eye there sean lol if so i for one would like to hear what shaun and mark have to say to that ??
Thanks Richard
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Link Posted 02/11/2012 - 13:22
I just can't get the image of Smeggy out of my head, sat in the back of a car bombing up or was it down the M whatever, with a bit of blue gel gafferd over his face it's made my day ... I must try it . jeff....


Link Posted 02/11/2012 - 20:54
AuraTodd wrote:
I like the second shot, the first one was a bit purply. What settings on your camera did you use to take this please?

Hi Aura, the settings used were:

Camera Make: PENTAX
Camera Model: PENTAX K-5
Date Taken: 2012-09-22 06:28:52
Exposure Program: Aperture priority
F-Stop: f/8
ISO Speed Rating: 200
Focal Length: 16 mm
Metering Mode: Pattern/Matrix
Exposure Time: 2.0 sec


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Last Edited by davidstorm on 02/11/2012 - 20:54
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