Is It Natural?
It depends on what you want to convey. As you can change the colour you can convey different moods by doing so. Sunrise colours can be quite different to sunset colours. As mist is most likely at those times, mid-day colour might look strange.
What should be possible is to shoot an image that actually reflects what the colour really was. This can be quite accurately done by shooting JPEG with Daylight white balance, or very precisely done by using a custom white balance. You can do this after the event with a RAW capture.
Your image makes for an attractive picture as it is.
In pondering about that, I cannot help but wonder why the mist is still so purple towards the right of the photo when it is more in the shadow of the hill; why the side of the boat facing away from the setting sun is purple too; why the hill above the mist is purple and why there is more red in some of the stonework facing the viewer than you might imagine if it was lit mainly by the dusky blue sky behind the photographer.
With some trepidation, I am forced to admit that I think there is a possibility either that you used a FL-D or FL-W filter when you took the shot - or adjusted the colour balance in post-processing. Adding a little green readily restores the colour balance to how I imagine it might have really looked - but then again, I wasn't there.
Does it look natural? Maybe not. Does it matter - definitely not. It is an attractive photo.
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A black and white image could equally be considered as not natural.
2. No.
2 - No.
Playing with your images to produce your own personal interpretation is in no way having 'pretensions of grandeur'. I promise you will look back at this and the previous thread at some point and shake your head. Gradually you get more experienced, influenced, independent and well... more bored
Spend some time on 500px.com, the photograph is almost lost in PP with most of the popular images.
I've found some of the blurb that enthusiasts like to attach to their shots far more revealing to 'pretensions of grandeur' and insulting to my intelligence than any PP they've done to them.
"I was on my way to the Bullring to get some Krispy Kremes for the guys in the office when I spotted this lovely scene, luckily I had my camera, tripod, filters and remote and managed to get this quick snap of a perfectly composed 9min long exposure at the Loch side in the Highlands at 4.30am."
Well, OK, it was a decent image, but for some reason I hate it now.
1. No. Does not look natural. But its looking good.
2. Well, it does not matter that much, as in your present shot. But in many shots, filters could look too unnatural. So it depends on what you shoot. Here I agree with John when he says "What should be possible is to shoot an image that actually reflects what the colour really was". That's the reason I too am not for too much playing with the shots, particularly the colours.
Regards,
Jeeess
I promise you will look back at this and the previous thread at some point and shake your head. Gradually you get more experienced, influenced, independent and well... more bored
I'm really struggling to get my head around what you're saying here Sean. I think you might be over-analysing me a little?
I generally do only very basic processing on my images, I have no hang-ups about what type of processing anyone prefers and I am always eager to learn. On this particular post I was just interested to know what everyone thought about whether they thought the images looked natural and whether they had strong views about this?
I have noticed on your own images that some do seem to be quite heavily processed, maybe I am wrong but this seems to be the case?
Regards
David
Many years ago we were in France on holiday and I'd just come back from my shower , Raymond was about to go and buy the fresh breakfast croissants so that puts the time about 7.30am We were camped in Saumur looking across the river at the chateau. Raymond came rushing back in to say "grab your camera and come !"
There was a very definite pink mist everywhere down near the chateau - fabulous - I got several pics and afterwards I was told these could not have happened - no sky could be that pink - but it was and I didn't use any PP then - it was a little Kodak P&S !
I'm prepared to believe that David's pinky purple could be correct . It may have been enhanced a bit - but that doesn't matter - it's a gorgeous shot and makes us think about it - the object of the lesson
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In answer to both questions has to be no. The end result should be as you see it.
If on the other hand you want to see what the camera saw then it is best to apply the the neutralize filter in Photoshop which clears any colour casts that may be present. In your own picture it removes the purple and replaces it with a pinkish tinge.
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Bob
Not sure how you have answered no to both questions and then gone on to make the above statement?? BTW im not attacking you just questioning
For my part 1.yes it looks natural to me and 2. No it dosent matter if it does or dosent represent the scene as you saw it
From developmental experience both personal and success of others I have followed, I was suggesting, very positively and particularly with regard to this photographic genre, that you will carry on this curve of evolution to a point where you will process more heavily and better than you do now.
I know my limitations and accept them, but I still try to do the best I can to take the best images possible within my limited set of skills.
You see comment like that annoys me, now if your seriously trying to say your talent will never increase, then fair enough I retract all comments and leave you to simply 'enjoy it'. However I am strongly optimistic that this will be proved wrong in the future. You've always said your eager to learn, and the very fact your wandering around the Lake District at 4am shows you want to do something, to push the boat out and get better. If your aspiring to Shaun's or marklj's stuff (and there's no reason you shouldn't) then PP is going to play a very big part.
Golden hour landscapes simply demand PP, and if you keep at them, the PP along with all the other skills will increase.
So... I believe you will look back on these threads and shake your head with a smile at how they have become obsolete/naive.
Damn, should have just wrote that!
The questions are "Does it look natural" and "Does it really matter" neither of which includes "what the camera saw".
2. No - its your picture. Its up to you.
It doesn't look natural to me. Highlighted by the purple stonework. I've had casts when stacking my grads. Sometimes I try to get rid of the casts. Sometimes I choose to work with them, just trying to make them more subtle.
2. No - there are many aspects to photography and one of them is art. No-one questions an artist as to whether his creation is 'natural' or not !
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1. Does it look natural?
2. Does it really matter?
I'm in photography simply because I enjoy it and I don't have any pretentions of grandeur. I know my limitations and accept them, but I still try to do the best I can to take the best images possible within my limited set of skills. What I would like to know is whether you have strong opinions about whether or not an image should look 'natural' (whatever that means). I would bet my last fiver that many of you do have the said 'strong opinions'.........
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David
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