interesting read: Pentax vs Nikon...
Posted 18/06/2011 - 18:47
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Frogfish wrote:
I am toying with the idea of buying a used D700 and a couple of lenses to start with (I have had a good offer for my K7 and will be selling it), rather than a 2nd K5 and can't make my mind up which way to go.
For me the differnces between 135 format and APS-C is too small and i rather have a smaller lighter kit then gaining that little bit more quality.I am toying with the idea of buying a used D700 and a couple of lenses to start with (I have had a good offer for my K7 and will be selling it), rather than a 2nd K5 and can't make my mind up which way to go.
I would go all the way and get a medium format and keep the APS-C as light versatile travel kit.
Posted 19/06/2011 - 04:07
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Anvh wrote:
I would go all the way and get a medium format and keep the APS-C as light versatile travel kit.
Yes this for me is the crux ..... will, not necessarily the improvement in quality, but the difference in output be worth it ? I love working with narrow DoF and that is why I'm so tempted. Frogfish wrote:
I am toying with the idea of buying a used D700 and a couple of lenses to start with (I have had a good offer for my K7 and will be selling it), rather than a 2nd K5 and can't make my mind up which way to go.
For me the differnces between 135 format and APS-C is too small and i rather have a smaller lighter kit then gaining that little bit more quality.I am toying with the idea of buying a used D700 and a couple of lenses to start with (I have had a good offer for my K7 and will be selling it), rather than a 2nd K5 and can't make my mind up which way to go.
I would go all the way and get a medium format and keep the APS-C as light versatile travel kit.
I've handled the gorgeous 645D, but to be realistic .... i would be murdered in my bed if my wife saw me drop that kind of cash on the 645D & lenses ! So it's really out of the question as I wouldn't want a non-digital MF camera.
http://frogfish.smugmug.com/ Pentax. Pentax DA*300/4, Cosina 55/1.2, Lens Baby Composer Pro & Edge 80, AFA x1.7, Metz 50 af1.
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Posted 19/06/2011 - 04:17
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Frogfish wrote:
I am toying with the idea of buying a used D700 and a couple of lenses to start with (I have had a good offer for my K7 and will be selling it), rather than a 2nd K5 and can't make my mind up which way to go.
I did toy with the idea of buying a 2nd brand over my 2nd body.I am toying with the idea of buying a used D700 and a couple of lenses to start with (I have had a good offer for my K7 and will be selling it), rather than a 2nd K5 and can't make my mind up which way to go.
However that entails the non-compatibility of lenses.
I ended up buying a 2nd k-5 for my 2nd Body and I know that was the best decision for me. I haven't got to think when snapping. everything is the same.
If I ever do experiment with a 2nd brand it will be certainly Nikon. Even my Canon shooting buddy agrees with that
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 19/06/2011 - 10:48
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Frogfish wrote:
Yes this for me is the crux ..... will, not necessarily the improvement in quality, but the difference in output be worth it ? I love working with narrow DoF and that is why I'm so tempted.
I like shallow DOF as well but with the lenses i've now that urge is quite satisfied.Yes this for me is the crux ..... will, not necessarily the improvement in quality, but the difference in output be worth it ? I love working with narrow DoF and that is why I'm so tempted.
You have the Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 and some very nice primes so i doubt you really need it but that it's more a matter of wanting... Would a nice FA77 or FA*85 not be a better investment then jumping ship?
The MF will hopefully come one day but it won't be the 645D, i find it too slow... i'll wait for a faster version.
Posted 19/06/2011 - 10:58
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rparmar wrote:
This aspect seems to be forever ignored. Perhaps because it is rather subtle.
Totally agree. I haven't been doing enough shooting recently to justify upgrading to a K5, so I can't comment on that, but I prefer the IQ of the K10D, and even the *ist D, to that of the K20D. Of course, the last is a better camera in many other ways than the first two, so that is what I generally use, but I don't believe that CMOS is better than CCD in terms of pure image quality. K10D wrote:
and I still like CCD results.
I know what you mean.and I still like CCD results.
This aspect seems to be forever ignored. Perhaps because it is rather subtle.
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Posted 19/06/2011 - 11:14
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Anvh wrote:
You have the Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 and some very nice primes so i doubt you really need it but that it's more a matter of wanting... Would a nice FA77 or FA*85 not be a better investment then jumping ship?
The MF will hopefully come one day but it won't be the 645D, i find it too slow... i'll wait for a faster version.
Smeggy - yes I've thought about the non-compatibility of lenses but it's easy enough to get adapters for those I'd really like to give a go on FF (43, VL50, the Taks). I could never see me giving up the K5 and I'm sure subsequent iterations are going to be even better .... but there is something different, special, about FF shots with quality lenses.Frogfish wrote:
Yes this for me is the crux ..... will, not necessarily the improvement in quality, but the difference in output be worth it ? I love working with narrow DoF and that is why I'm so tempted.
I like shallow DOF as well but with the lenses i've now that urge is quite satisfied.Yes this for me is the crux ..... will, not necessarily the improvement in quality, but the difference in output be worth it ? I love working with narrow DoF and that is why I'm so tempted.
You have the Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 and some very nice primes so i doubt you really need it but that it's more a matter of wanting... Would a nice FA77 or FA*85 not be a better investment then jumping ship?
The MF will hopefully come one day but it won't be the 645D, i find it too slow... i'll wait for a faster version.
Stefan - CBA ? Maybe For the K5 I am looking at getting the Viv S1 85/1.4, no AF and maybe not quite as good as the FA*85 but then it's around a $1,000 cheaper - which is almost the price of a used D700 here (US$1,000 - 1,500).
http://frogfish.smugmug.com/ Pentax. Pentax DA*300/4, Cosina 55/1.2, Lens Baby Composer Pro & Edge 80, AFA x1.7, Metz 50 af1.
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Posted 19/06/2011 - 11:28
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Frogfish wrote:
Stefan - CBA ? Maybe
I've BBG now... I've the same amount of bags then i've lenses...Stefan - CBA ? Maybe
I'm sure the Viv will be great.
I've the Voigtlander 125mm f/2.5 very high on my list...
Why must one be on sale right now...
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/147850-sale-voigt...%E4nder-macro-apo-lanthar-125mm-f-2-5-sl-worldwide.html
oh no it's even in the Netherlands...
But sold already i believe *sighs*
Posted 19/06/2011 - 11:35
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Anvh wrote:
I'm sure the Viv will be great.
I've the Voigtlander 125mm f/2.5 very high on my list...
Why must one be on sale right now...
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/147850-sale-voigt...%E4nder-macro-apo-lanthar-125mm-f-2-5-sl-worldwide.html
oh no it's even in the Netherlands...
ha ha - yes, I'm drooling right now. I love VLs. Gorgeous lenses and the 125 is to die for !
Frogfish wrote:
Stefan - CBA ? Maybe
I've BBG now... I've the same amount of bags then i've lenses...Stefan - CBA ? Maybe
I'm sure the Viv will be great.
I've the Voigtlander 125mm f/2.5 very high on my list...
Why must one be on sale right now...
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/147850-sale-voigt...%E4nder-macro-apo-lanthar-125mm-f-2-5-sl-worldwide.html
oh no it's even in the Netherlands...
http://frogfish.smugmug.com/ Pentax. Pentax DA*300/4, Cosina 55/1.2, Lens Baby Composer Pro & Edge 80, AFA x1.7, Metz 50 af1.
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Nikon. D800. D600. Sigma 500/4.5, Nikon 300/2.8 VRII, Sigma 120-300/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 21/2.8, Zeiss Distagon ZF2 35/2.0, Sigma 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikon TC20EIII, Nikon TC14EII, Kenko x1.4, Sigma 2.0
Posted 19/06/2011 - 20:56
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George Lazarette wrote:
Totally agree. I haven't been doing enough shooting recently to justify upgrading to a K5, so I can't comment on that, but I prefer the IQ of the K10D, and even the *ist D, to that of the K20D. Of course, the last is a better camera in many other ways than the first two, so that is what I generally use, but I don't believe that CMOS is better than CCD in terms of pure image quality.
Though I have been very happy with the K20D IQ I think things changed with the K-x/K-7. There is something not quite so precise about the images off that sensor.
Totally agree. I haven't been doing enough shooting recently to justify upgrading to a K5, so I can't comment on that, but I prefer the IQ of the K10D, and even the *ist D, to that of the K20D. Of course, the last is a better camera in many other ways than the first two, so that is what I generally use, but I don't believe that CMOS is better than CCD in terms of pure image quality.
Posted 19/06/2011 - 21:00
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Frogfish wrote:
For the K5 I am looking at getting the Viv S1 85/1.4, no AF and maybe not quite as good as the FA*85 but then it's around a $1,000 cheaper
Consider the FA77 which is the improved A*85mm. Despite the similar optical formula it has been reduced from 555g and 66mm in length to 270g and 48mm. One pays only a half stop for this pleasure.
For the K5 I am looking at getting the Viv S1 85/1.4, no AF and maybe not quite as good as the FA*85 but then it's around a $1,000 cheaper
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and I still like CCD results.
This aspect seems to be forever ignored. Perhaps because it is rather subtle.