I would like your opinion Please

Not as much as you might think. Aston DBS is only 15 seconds quicker round the Nurburgring (Nordschleife) than the quickest Renault. That equates to around £137,000 for one second per mile.

Just to TRY and get the thread back on track, did anyone look at the Lenovo W700? The more i see about it the better it gets. Not only does it have a graphics tablet built in AND a retractable second screen, it ALSO has a built screen calibrator ! WOW.

It looks pretty good.

Not sure what I'd use the second screen for (used to have dual screen in my office but never really used it, and haven't missed it since I stopped it). The built in graphics tablet is intriguing, but it would only really be useful if the display was good (many people don't like editing on laptops due to the display).

My main reservation with it is the size, 17" laptops really aren't that portable, and if you're not going to be taking it out and about you might be better off with a desktop.

The feature set is certainly interesting though. I remember Toshiba used to do a laptop with a swivel screen that effectively became a tablet (with handwriting recognition). Very useful if you need to make notes etc. when walking about, and don't want to have to type up after (as I was doing a lot of at the time).

Plus, at UK prices the W700 is hardly a cheap option.

Yes it is quite pricey, another good feature is the ability to have two external monitors.

It is aimed at the graphic, photographic, engineering market so i`m sure the screen would be high quality.

That no one makes a laptop designed for graphics designer?
Dell have some but they are price ^^;

I do use laptop.

BUT, I use also another screen (external, additional...or how should it be named)
I cant imagine working on only one screen any more. Too little room
I open the pic on the additional screen and most of the menus etc are on laptop screen. So my image is "clear" while editing.

Stefan, comments like this just serve to illustrate that you do not understand Macs at all. It is completely NOT about the hardware. Not in the slightest. Apple have changed the Mac processor architecture 3 times now without any difference to their UI. It is ALL about the the user experience.

You are completely off your rocker

First you complain that Mac laptops are 3 times the cost of PC laptops.

Now you are suggesting the Lenovo W700.

A MacBook Pro costs between £900 and £1900 depending on configuration. I won't bother listing the prices of the cheaper Macbooks.

A quick look on Google Shopping tells me that your Lenovo W700 costs between £1400 and £4000(!!!).

.... I have a MacbookPro on my desk at work right now. I'm nonplussed about it. It's a computer. And?
I haven't had a fully working desktop now for five years. Not at work (discounting test machines) and not at home, either. Thinkpads (600E, T23, R40, T60) or now a Dell D600 and E6400. I don't see any problems, though if it was mine I'd want at least a 15" widescreen, preferably something even bigger. The old test box had a 24 and that was great.

I think I might go for a fast dual core with 8GB running SSH at home, that way I could process pics from wherever whenever I uploaded them.

Bret

Of course it's about hardware, you want the processor to do calculations right or are you saying the Mac Pro is just as good as a Mac Mini

They use off of the shelve Intel processors and Nvidia cards with custom firmware but you can flash those.
So how did Mac alter the processor architecture? I've no idea how you can do that with software, might be my limited knowledge.

It's your limited knowledge, sorry Macs originally used Motorola 68000 series processors. In the 90s they switched to IBM PowerPC RISC processors. Recently they switched again to Intel processors. Each time they did this the entire OS was re-written (and included a built-in emulator to run old code). Modern Macs still have the PowerPC emulator in them now.

A Mac Mini can do anything a Mac Pro can do (excepting physical limitations like fewer ports, or lack of a humongous graphics card, etc), it just does it slower.

Boy did I sturr up a hornets nest. For those that are wondering yes I do live in wonderful Wyoming, USA. Some of the finest trout fishing in the world right out my back door.

I didn't mean to cause an argument about which laptop was best or worst. I was and still am looking for information from people that use laptops.
Things they like, dislike, or would change if they purchased another. There have been some informative tips here and I thank everyone for their input.

Thanks again to everyone. Even the debate was interesting.
Steven

I checked out the link. There is not even an apple store in the state of Wyoming. The closest one is Denver, Colorado. 400 miles away. Dont want to make the trip just to look LOL.
Steven

Yes Tim but I ain't asking that.
How does The intel processor differ in the Mac then those you can buy for your PC, that's what I'm asking.

The current Macbook pro use:
Intel Core 2 Duo P7550, P8400, P7570, P8700, P8800 or T9600
nVidia GeForce 9600M GT
4GB (two 2GB) of 1066 MHz PC3-8500 DDR3 SO-DIMM SDRAM

All hardware you can get for your pc as well that means you can compare prices.
can't find a notebook with the same specs so fast.

Lets get a Mac Pro
The cheapest one with HD 4870 (512mb) is €2.479,00
Now the HP z400 has almost the same when you also buy a ASUS HD 4870 (sorry 1GB was cheaper ) that comes down in total € 1.342,36
Now I wonder why there is a € 1.000,- price difference, that's a reasonable question to ask right?

Or don't I get the point about the Mac now?

I`m not suggesting the OP buys one , just bringing them to everyones attention and commenting that i think its a very innovative machine. Thats all.

You are obviousley very attatched to Apple products judging by your somewhat aggresive defense of the products, and good for you. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, right?

My opinion is they are overpriced. This is an open forum and if i want to state that i think they are overpriced i should be able to do so without being attacked from all angles by someone who disagrees.