How to test new Sigma 10-20 ?
I talked a bit about this here.
I don't think this is a fault with the lens, more a consequence of the extreme DOF you get at wide angles.
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I've taken a couple of tripod mounted shots as a test, would appreciate anyones thoughts...looks a little soft at F8, although F11 doesn't look bad....would this be classed as a keeper ?
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F8
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Edit: Ok, seen these now. I'd be inclined to reshoot these, making sure the camera is at right angles to the wall.
On mine, the barrel distortion is symmetrical.
(ie, same right as left).
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It's not a lens for brick walls, or architecture generally.
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That's what I call severe barrel distortion.
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It is very noticeable, I agree. Still, it's very easy to fix, and it's an awful lot cheaper than the 12-24. I haven't tried the Sigma at 12mm for comparison.
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It will be interesting to see how the Tokina 11-16mm behaves in this respect.
I wouldn't keep a lens that wasn't becoming sharp till f11 though.
The Pentax 12-24mm is just about perfect as far as distortion goes.
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The pity with all lenses is that manufacturers don't give a breakdown of what the design parameters are for a given lens. Obviously the Sigma would not be first choice for an architect. If this were explained upfront, then it would avoid disappointment and wasted cash. This applies equally well to all lenses from all manufactureres - tell us what they are designed for and then we can make an informed choice.
Likewise a statement, for example like "Both 100mm and 50mm macros are superb, sharp lenses, but the 50mm is more suited to the photography of flat subjkects such as documents" (if it were true, I'm not saying it is so!) would be a useful indication in addition to providing distortion figures.
I have a superb loose leaf folder from the Spotmatic era that does just this, including distortion diagrams for all the lenses then available. Very useful stuff, and certainly very interesting.
The pity with all lenses is that manufacturers don't give a breakdown of what the design parameters are for a given lens.
The Sigma shows virtually no PF at all, even in the sort of conditions that encourage it - like tree branches as you say.
As you say, it's horses for courses.
When I get a chance I'll throw together a little comparison of its distortion at 10mm and 12mm, since to be fair, the Pentax only goes down to 12.
10mm is a lot wider than 12mm, it has to be said. For the sake of a bit of (very easy) correction sometimes, the extra width, lack of PF, and the hugely smaller price, I opted for the Sigma. So far, touch wood, I haven't been disappointed, although before I realised how to make sure the focusing was happening, I was a little concerned.
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So far, touch wood, I haven't been disappointed, although before I realised how to make sure the focusing was happening, I was a little concerned.
Chris I'd appreciate your thoughts on the large images I've now posted (have to click on the text "link")
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So far, touch wood, I haven't been disappointed, although before I realised how to make sure the focusing was happening, I was a little concerned.
Chris I'd appreciate your thoughts on the large images I've now posted (have to click on the text "link")
thanks
simon
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I reshot some as symmetrical to the wall as I could get, shot on the tripod this time at f8 & F11
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The distortion compares favourably with the Pentax 12-24's. See:
www.photozone.de/pentax/146-sigma-af-10-20mm-f4-56-ex-dc-pentax-k-review--test-r...
www.photozone.de/pentax/133-pentax-da-12-24mm-f4-al-ed-if-review--test-report?st...
Barrel distortion is only very obvious with the Sigma 10-20 when the lens is very close to the subject.
Pentax K-3, DA18-135, DA35 F2.4, DA17-70, DA55-300, FA28-200, A50 F1.7, A100 F4 Macro, A400 F5.6, Sigma 10-20 EXDC, 50-500 F4.5-6.3 APO DG OS Samsung flash SEF-54PZF(x2)
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