Help auto focusing in low light

petekd
Posted 17/04/2007 - 19:08 Link
Hi the K10D seems to struggle quite bad in low light trying to focus in Auto mode is this normal and can a firmware fix it

Pete
Wedding & Portrait photographer
Ammonyte
Posted 17/04/2007 - 19:26 Link
Autofocus works by looking for contrast changes in specific strips of pixels (AFAIK), so in low light you are not going to get much contrast in those strips, therefore autofocus wont't work in low light. It's not a pentax thing nor a K10D thing, it's a limitation of the way such systems work. If you have a flash unit such as the AF360, there is a red illuminator which throws a grid of red light onto the object to allow the AF to work in almost totally dark conditions.
Tim the Ammonyte
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amoringello
Posted 17/04/2007 - 20:17 Link
Lenses with smaller apertures are going to struggle even more. If your lens will only open to f5.6 it will have a lot less light to work with than say a f2.8 or f1.4.

Someone sells a cheap little attachment with a row of LEDs that help illuminate for focusing. But I think they are on all the time, so using the pop-up flash focus-assist or the 360/540 red spotlight is probably going to give better results as they are on only while the button is half-pressed.
George Lazarette
Posted 17/04/2007 - 20:46 Link
We all struggle to focus in low light, not just cameras. It's because we use light to focus, and when there isn't any, we have a hard time doing it.

G
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LiamD
Posted 18/04/2007 - 07:18 Link
Hi Tim,

Quote:
Autofocus works by looking for contrast changes in specific strips of pixels (AFAIK), so in low light you are not going to get much contrast in those strips, therefore autofocus wont't work in low light.
For reference Pete..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autofocus

Quote:
If you have a flash unit such as the AF360, there is a red illuminator which throws a grid of red light onto the object to allow the AF to work in almost totally dark conditions.
I tried this within an hour of getting my 360. Forget almost.. It works perfectly in total darkness.. perfect focus and exposure every time.. I just can't manage that in daylight..

Pete, until you get you get a 360 or 540 flash gun, you'll just have to focus manually when it gets too dark for the AF to work.

Cheers

Liam
Liam


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MattMatic
Posted 18/04/2007 - 12:48 Link
Pete,
You can help the AF along a bit...

Switch the focus selector on the back to "Centre Only" - point the very middle of the viewfinder on something you can see has contrast and focus with that.

Personally, I find it much easier to use the custom function that disables focus-on-half-press-of-shutter and just use the "AF" button on the back

Generally I can get a focus in very low light if there's a spot of contrast (like the subject's eyes).

But, yes, low light = low contrast = difficulty in getting a focus lock.
And, no, it's not firmware fixable (ALL cameras have this problem in low light, perhaps to varying degrees). But Pentax have given enough custom options to be able to use the camera very, very sensibly.

Matt
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Don
Posted 18/04/2007 - 13:19 Link
another strategy is to use video lights....has obvious pros and cons...but works great with fast lenses.
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Ammonyte
Posted 18/04/2007 - 20:59 Link
Aw Liam, did you have go go and blow my cover as an expert (google/wikipedia) user?

Tim the Ammonyte
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K10D & sundry toys
http://www.ammonyte.com/photos.html

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