HD coating does make a difference...

pengbai
Posted 30/11/2013 - 22:36 Link
Here is not a serious comparison. Just snapped two shots by FA77/1.8 and another two by HD-DA 70/2.4 to show how they perform in extreme light condition using the same settings.

As far as I can see, HD did make a difference in good way. As you can see, 77mm gave much harsher purple fringing around the bulbs, and the whole image showed less contrast and noticeably soft at focus area. (see zoomed set 2)


Please judge them by yourselves.

Set1 (1/100s ISO 200)
FA77 (at f2.5)
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HD70 (at f2.4)
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Set2 (1/100s ISO 100)
FA77 (at f2.5)
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HD70 (at f2.4)
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Zoomed Set2 (focus area)
FA77 (at f2.5)
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HD70 (at f2.4)
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Edited by pengbai: 30/11/2013 - 22:51
JAK
Posted 30/11/2013 - 22:40 Link
The Photozone review reported that the FA77 suffered from purple fringing at wide apertures.
http://www.photozone.de/reviews/128-pentax-smc-fa-77mm-f18-limited-review--test-...

John K
John K
pengbai
Posted 30/11/2013 - 22:49 Link
77 tested at 2.5 not 1.8... My experience with that aperture 2.5 was ok...
Edited by pengbai: 30/11/2013 - 22:51
pentaxian450
Posted 01/12/2013 - 01:15 Link
That test is entirely meaningless. The two lenses have different characteristics, and different optical formulas. You can't expect the results to be identical.

To show the difference caused by the coating, if any, you'd need two identical lenses, one with the HD coating, and one with the regular coating.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Smeggypants
Posted 01/12/2013 - 03:46 Link
pentaxian450 wrote:
That test is entirely meaningless. The two lenses have different characteristics, and different optical formulas. You can't expect the results to be identical.

To show the difference caused by the coating, if any, you'd need two identical lenses, one with the HD coating, and one with the regular coating.
Yes agreed.

Further those CA/Fringings can easily be removed in Processing these days.
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Mannesty
Posted 01/12/2013 - 05:42 Link
pentaxian450 wrote:
That test is entirely meaningless. The two lenses have different characteristics, and different optical formulas. You can't expect the results to be identical.

To show the difference caused by the coating, if any, you'd need two identical lenses, one with the HD coating, and one with the regular coating.
+1

Purple fringing aside, the 77mm Ltd is a portrait lens, designed to produce soft focus at wide apertures. In this case it's a feature, not a failing.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Edited by Mannesty: 01/12/2013 - 05:42
Mannesty
Posted 01/12/2013 - 06:21 Link
Also, I think the 77mm Ltd lens has the standard smc coating so your HD lens is 2 generations of coating newer than that which is on the 77mm Limited lens.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
pengbai
Posted 01/12/2013 - 09:14 Link
If I had smc da70/2.4, I surely would use it as comparison.plus, as I said, that was not serious comparison!

If you only see the difference on fringings and CA, that is fine. For me, I agree. meaningless comparison led to meaningless replies
Horst
Posted 01/12/2013 - 11:09 Link
As I can see it, both lenses still have the purple fringing.

So you need to get rid of it with software on both lenses.

Finally, the results will be identical.

Regards, Horst

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