Focus after you take the shot

thoughton
Posted 24/06/2011 - 10:43 Link
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Pentaxophile
Posted 24/06/2011 - 10:50 Link
That is remarkable. Focus bracketing is something which some compacts have already, and could be used in a similar way, but this is something new and amazing. Maybe they can put it in the next Q?
Unlocker
Posted 24/06/2011 - 10:56 Link
We were talking about this 3 years ago when the tech was first talked about. The interesting thing with the latest announcement is that there has been $50 million of venture capital secured to develop the tech. Interesting times ahead!
Blythman
Posted 24/06/2011 - 10:56 Link
Guess the original shots had a large depth of field, and blurring is applied via software. Doesn't the Q offer some bokeh effect?
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Pentaxophile
Posted 24/06/2011 - 11:09 Link
The Q does it with a filter or maybe through merging two shots with different focus settings (current Sony compacts do this). This is something else though.

Quote:
The gadget, which Lytro is calling a "light field camera," uses multiple internal lenses to capture much more light than a normal camera, at more than one angle.
So basically it captures all the information to create a '3D model' of the scene, which you can then capture snapshots of with various camera settings or slightly different shooting angles?
Edited by Pentaxophile: 24/06/2011 - 11:11
Don
Posted 24/06/2011 - 12:36 Link
this will find it's way into surveillance and radar cameras first before it makes it's way into consumer cameras.
the point and shoot crowd won't wanna pay more for a camera with this, and the d-slr crowd won't need it as long as they got lenses for thier existing system. But law enforcement and military and gubments would surely like the idea og snapping a shot of a crowd and being able to focus in on one individual or group...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
SkyRider
Posted 24/06/2011 - 13:10 Link
I wonder whether you could use this for focus stacking...?
Pentaxophile
Posted 24/06/2011 - 14:07 Link
Don wrote:
this will find it's way into surveillance and radar cameras first before it makes it's way into consumer cameras.
the point and shoot crowd won't wanna pay more for a camera with this, and the d-slr crowd won't need it as long as they got lenses for thier existing system. But law enforcement and military and gubments would surely like the idea og snapping a shot of a crowd and being able to focus in on one individual or group...
Surely they can do that already? Doubt they're interested in aesthetic differential focus effects! Seeing from slightly different angles in partial 3d might interest them though.

Are you really saying that gadget loving consumers wouldn't love this sort of camera? I think it'll be massive.
Edited by Pentaxophile: 24/06/2011 - 14:10
Pentaxophile
Posted 24/06/2011 - 14:09 Link
SkyRider wrote:
I wonder whether you could use this for focus stacking...?
It'll make focus stacking look quaint and clunky! You can have as much or as little in focus as you want, if it does what I think it does.
MattMatic
Posted 24/06/2011 - 15:18 Link
Just to add, this works by using a modified microlens array in front of the sensor.

The thesis PDF shows them hacking an MF digital camera. The 'raw' output is decidedly odd, but the software analyses the sensor data to reconstitute a 'proper' image given your required focus point and range.

The interesting thing is they have packaged not just the capture technology but the web technology to allow you to email images and for other people to selectively choose the focus from your image! Presumably when you look at the gallery images you are using the delivery technology they plan on using...

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thoughton
Posted 24/06/2011 - 17:05 Link
I was using Safari when I first looked, and was wondering what the gallery was supposed to show

Then I switched browsers to Firefox and suddenly it worked Pretty amazing stuff.
Tim
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dougf8
Posted 25/06/2011 - 18:08 Link
Apparently there is already software that you can tweak the focus in post processing. Anybody know what it is? Any experience?
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Pentaxophile
Posted 25/06/2011 - 18:19 Link
There's Focus Magic, which can correct very slight focus blur, and directional movement blur. It's only incrementally better than normal sharpening though, except the movement blur which is slightly more impressive.

I torrented it specifically for correcting shutter induced blur, which it does a great job on - not that I see it very often with my k7
Edited by Pentaxophile: 25/06/2011 - 18:23
Don
Posted 25/06/2011 - 19:52 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
Don wrote:
this will find it's way into surveillance and radar cameras first before it makes it's way into consumer cameras.
the point and shoot crowd won't wanna pay more for a camera with this, and the d-slr crowd won't need it as long as they got lenses for thier existing system. But law enforcement and military and gubments would surely like the idea og snapping a shot of a crowd and being able to focus in on one individual or group...
Surely they can do that already? Doubt they're interested in aesthetic differential focus effects! Seeing from slightly different angles in partial 3d might interest them though.

Are you really saying that gadget loving consumers wouldn't love this sort of camera? I think it'll be massive.
Robots... machine vision... massive possibilities there.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Gwyn
Posted 26/06/2011 - 09:14 Link
I had a play with the demo. It is fun to play with I admit, but where is the skill? Surely part of the enjoyment of photography is in the actual taking of the photograph, the thinking about it, the composition of it, deciding on what and how much should be in focus?
A depressing prospect if it can all be done in computer later.

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