Flash with K7
Posted 31/05/2009 - 09:51
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If the new metering system is really improved by a huge margin then the flash exposure accuracy should be better.
Since I bought Matt's ebook on how to use the flash my flash results have improved by a huge margin.
I must say that the flash problems are mostly seen when there is a lot of highly reflective material in the frame. You need to compensate for that manually. If the new 77 segment metering system allows for certain parts to blow out (reflective parts) the problems would be gone.
Since I bought Matt's ebook on how to use the flash my flash results have improved by a huge margin.
I must say that the flash problems are mostly seen when there is a lot of highly reflective material in the frame. You need to compensate for that manually. If the new 77 segment metering system allows for certain parts to blow out (reflective parts) the problems would be gone.
Camera:K20D|Ist*DS|Spotmatic II|MZ-10
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Posted 31/05/2009 - 12:13
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golfdiesel wrote:
If the new 77 segment metering system allows for certain parts to blow out (reflective parts) the problems would be gone.
That would be handy, gives me a good excuse to buy the K-7.If the new 77 segment metering system allows for certain parts to blow out (reflective parts) the problems would be gone.
Just explain to the wife if I don't buy the K-7 then I am going to have to buy Matts E-book instead.
Posted 31/05/2009 - 14:56
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Mike you don't have the E-book yet.. shame on you, go get
I'm saying that now but I don't know to behonest, I always use spotmetering and didn't find the flash to weak... maybe only a little bit but not much.
golfdiesel wrote:
If the new 77 segment metering system allows for certain parts to blow out (reflective parts) the problems would be gone.
You can also set your current camera on spot metering, if there is no highlight in the spot it would meter that part nicely to a 18% grey.If the new 77 segment metering system allows for certain parts to blow out (reflective parts) the problems would be gone.
I'm saying that now but I don't know to behonest, I always use spotmetering and didn't find the flash to weak... maybe only a little bit but not much.
Posted 01/06/2009 - 08:38
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I suppose it comes down to what you perceive as a "problem"
All flash systems have limits - and this is probably the biggest mistake a new user will make. Most of the issues arise when you're trying to get tons of light in a dark place out of a small flashgun with a low ISO and a small aperture!!
The biggest improvement in flash usage comes from fully understanding what the limits are; what you can do about changing things; and how to turn it to your advantage.
So, I suppose there will probably be an improvement in auto metering on the K7 - but you'll still have the limitations to respect, and the design and philosophy will no doubt be very similar to the previous bodies.
But, when they hit the streets, I'm more than happy to test it out fully if someone wants to loan me a K7D for a few months
Matt
All flash systems have limits - and this is probably the biggest mistake a new user will make. Most of the issues arise when you're trying to get tons of light in a dark place out of a small flashgun with a low ISO and a small aperture!!
The biggest improvement in flash usage comes from fully understanding what the limits are; what you can do about changing things; and how to turn it to your advantage.
So, I suppose there will probably be an improvement in auto metering on the K7 - but you'll still have the limitations to respect, and the design and philosophy will no doubt be very similar to the previous bodies.
But, when they hit the streets, I'm more than happy to test it out fully if someone wants to loan me a K7D for a few months
Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
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Posted 01/06/2009 - 09:21
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Hmmm....I've started playing with a AF-500 FTZ. My first flashgun (never used one before). That guide could be very useful...
Posted 02/06/2009 - 14:51
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One thing I have noticed about the K-7's built in flash, it stands higher than the K10D/K20D.
This may eliminate the only flash problem I have (with my K10D) and that is shadowing at the bottom of the frame! Sometime this is due to me forgetting to take off the lens hood and other time is is because the DA*16-50 is just too big at the 16mm end! For this reason I now carry a Metz 48 most of the time (I leave the metz 58 at home, it's just a bit on the heavy side!).
Just one of the many reasons I am listing for me to get the K-7! I have started working on the other half already
This may eliminate the only flash problem I have (with my K10D) and that is shadowing at the bottom of the frame! Sometime this is due to me forgetting to take off the lens hood and other time is is because the DA*16-50 is just too big at the 16mm end! For this reason I now carry a Metz 48 most of the time (I leave the metz 58 at home, it's just a bit on the heavy side!).
Just one of the many reasons I am listing for me to get the K-7! I have started working on the other half already
Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon
Posted 02/06/2009 - 16:11
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The K10D's built in flash has about as much power as a spent match and I have long since given up using it in favour of the AF360FGZ.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 03/06/2009 - 13:11
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womble wrote:
The K10D's built in flash has about as much power as a spent match and I have long since given up using it in favour of the AF360FGZ.
I find it works well for fill in flash and mostly use it for that, though not with the 16-50!
The K10D's built in flash has about as much power as a spent match and I have long since given up using it in favour of the AF360FGZ.
Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon
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Manchester
On paper, should the K7 address the problems we have seemingly been having with flash with the K10D and the K20D which necessitated your valuable tome?
Neil