Flash for action watersports

Posted 13/09/2011 - 15:01 Link
Hi
Seen this flash and wondered what people think?
Im going to be using it for taking photos of White water kayaking?

Also is this the cheapest place to get one from?
http://www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk/130/Pentax-AF-360FGZ-Flash.html?referrer=Froogl...

Alex
Anvh
Posted 13/09/2011 - 15:17 Link
Why would you need a flash for that, i doubt they will be kayaking indoors or in poor light

Using the correct lens is more important.
What camera and lens(es) do you intent to use?
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Posted 13/09/2011 - 15:50 Link
Im using a k5 with a 18-250
During the day its fine, its when I come to take photos in the evening just that extra bit of light would be ideal.
moonstomp
Posted 13/09/2011 - 16:01 Link
AlexJamesNicol wrote:
Hi
Seen this flash and wondered what people think?
Im going to be using it for taking photos of White water kayaking?

Also is this the cheapest place to get one from?
http://www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk/130/Pentax-AF-360FGZ-Flash.html?referrer=Froogl...

Alex
Hi Alex,

If you do decide to go with the AF360fgz, then you might be interested in the 2nd hand one which I'm currently selling in the Classifieds Section of Pentax User? Link here: link

Best regards,

George.
K-5, Sigma 17-70 DC, FA 50 1.7, DA 50-200 & Metz 58AF-1.
Posted 13/09/2011 - 16:09 Link
95 euros works out at what in pounds?
moonstomp
Posted 13/09/2011 - 16:21 Link
Approximately GBP £83.00 plus postage (approx £10.50 for Signed For Delivery).

Thanks for your interest.

George.
K-5, Sigma 17-70 DC, FA 50 1.7, DA 50-200 & Metz 58AF-1.
CoDa
Posted 13/09/2011 - 16:51 Link
I took some water sports shots recently with my sigma 50-150mm f2.8 no flash needed, it was a dull evening. (not at the start of the trip though)

You might find that they object to flash as it could cause distractions etc.
Colin

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Anvh
Posted 13/09/2011 - 16:55 Link
AlexJamesNicol wrote:
Im using a k5 with a 18-250
During the day its fine, its when I come to take photos in the evening just that extra bit of light would be ideal.
I would go for Metz 48 or Metz50 instead, they are in the same price range but it has swivel head which make it more useful in my eyes.
But i wonder if they are powerful enough for long range in such situation.

I'm still not sure you should use a flash, the K5 can go easily up to ISO3200.
If you plan on doing this more often i think your money is better spend on sigma/tamron 70-200 f/2.8 lens, this lens focus faster but also let more light go through.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
geordie01
Posted 13/09/2011 - 17:03 Link
If i was kayaking down a rapid and some one was firing off a flash at me when i am concentrating on staying alive i would not be best pleased.and i speak from experience.Can you not just up the iso on the k5 i have shot at Stockton white water park with k-r and a tamron 70-300mm no problem.
MattMatic
Posted 13/09/2011 - 21:03 Link
Alex,
You didn't really answer the questions I posed in the previous thread you posted...

You will need a MASSIVE flash to make any difference with a 250mm lens. The effectiveness of the flash decreases by a quarter every time you double the distance (Google "Inverse Square Law"). So, for a flash that works very well at 2 meters, it'll have a quarter of that power at 4 meters, a sixteenth of the power at 8 meters, and a measely sixty-fourth power at 16 meters. It'll be like trying to use a pocket Maglite for portraiture

Maybe a bank of 4 or 8 of the AF360FGZ will help a bit - but it'll put off the kayakers too!

You are better off honing your panning skills, raising the ISO on the K5, and consider shooting RAW (especially when using higher ISO settings) - before you splash out on flash!

You may get more mileage from buying Lightroom 3 Student Edition

Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
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Edited by MattMatic: 13/09/2011 - 21:05
Aligraham
Posted 17/09/2011 - 14:39 Link
Get 8 YN460-II's and do what dave black does in the video bellow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6a47BQA70&feature=player_embedded
K7
Tamron SP AF17-50 f2.8 Di II -- SMC Pentax 35mm f/2.4 AL -- SMC Pentax-DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR
SMC Pentax-FA 28-70mm F4 AL
SMC Pentax-M 50mm F1.7 -- SMC Pentax-M 135mm F3.5 -- SMC Pentax-M 200mm F4

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