Fisheye lenes

bforbes
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:32 Link
What is a diagonal Fisheye? link
RioRico
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:39 Link
bforbes wrote:
What is a diagonal Fisheye?
The fish isn't yet quite cross-eyed. Just wait a day or so.
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Anvh
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:45 Link
I think he means that it fills the whole sensor so not an circular fisheye.
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johnriley
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:45 Link
In the context of the auction description, the vendor do doubt means a full frame fisheye - one that has a diagonal view of 180 degrees. In other words, the image fills the frame, unlike a circular fisheye of up to 220 degrees where there is a circular image within the frame, surrounded by black.
Best regards, John
bforbes
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:52 Link
thank you. So are all the pentax fisheyes circular
Anvh
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:57 Link
bforbes wrote:
thank you. So are all the pentax fisheyes circular
No most aren't actually so far as i know.

This an image taken with a circular fisheye.

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johnriley
Posted 17/07/2011 - 23:26 Link
Pentax have always made full frame fisheye lenses. We have to look to other makers for circular fisheye lenses.
Best regards, John
RioRico
Posted 18/07/2011 - 04:19 Link
So much for humor.

The AOV of any lens is typically measured on the diagonal of the frame its image is projected upon. A full-circle projection on an arbitrary frame of course does not reach the full diagonal. Any frame-filling projection on an arbitrary frame would be trivially 'diagonal'. Even a full-circle fisheye is 'diagonal' on a small enough frame. I find the term "diagonal fisheye" misleading, more marketing crud on par with "35mm equivalent" and crap.factor. It does not describe a characteristic of the lens, just how the lens behaves on a given frame.
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bforbes
Posted 18/07/2011 - 07:45 Link
RioRico wrote:
So much for humor.

Don't worry the humor was noted.

So if I pick a focal length, say 10mm, will a normal wide angle and a diagonal fisheye have the same AOV?
axl
Posted 18/07/2011 - 07:55 Link
bforbes wrote:
RioRico wrote:
So much for humor.

Don't worry the humor was noted.

So if I pick a focal length, say 10mm, will a normal wide angle and a diagonal fisheye have the same AOV?
No,

Rectalinear lenses loose some degrees due to correction.
F.e. Pentax DA10-17 has diagonal FOV of 180 degrees os APSC sensor at 10mm. At 17mm it's FOV is around 100 degrees, in comparison Sigma 10-20 at 10mm has just above 100 degrees FOV but obviously much less distortions than the DA at 17mm
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Posted 18/07/2011 - 09:56 Link
RioRico wrote:
So much for humor.
Precisely what I thought when I read your joke!
johnriley
Posted 18/07/2011 - 13:38 Link
There's plenty of humour about, but if someone asks a sensible question it helps if they get a sensible answer. Otherwise, they might just decide not to bother asking again.

Like all humour, it's all about timimg.
Best regards, John

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