Firefox 'issues'
Posted 20/11/2009 - 08:48
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Well there are several different flavours of Windows 7, which might be causing results to vary.
But on reflection I also recently saw something about Firefox implementing enhanced security features due to a large number of insecure flash installations causing browser vulnerabilities.
As such an out of date flash installation could conceivably be the problem and it might be worth downloading the latest version from the Adobe site.
But on reflection I also recently saw something about Firefox implementing enhanced security features due to a large number of insecure flash installations causing browser vulnerabilities.
As such an out of date flash installation could conceivably be the problem and it might be worth downloading the latest version from the Adobe site.
Posted 20/11/2009 - 12:10
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Running it for 80 days now with Opera 10 without any problems.
It's probably flash related like you said.
John My pc is now 5 years old and the OS just as old as well, Windows XP 64bit. Only installed it once and runned very good till I installed Windows 7.
I must be one of the lucky ones
It's probably flash related like you said.
John My pc is now 5 years old and the OS just as old as well, Windows XP 64bit. Only installed it once and runned very good till I installed Windows 7.
I must be one of the lucky ones
Posted 20/11/2009 - 12:25
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I use firefox 3.5 on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 edition, without any problems. When developing websites I tend to use this as the base standard for testing all web pages, any problems that do occur are invariably in Explorer. Microsoft has a habit of producing products that don't stick to the aggreed CSS standards. I would try re installing firefox and see if that resolves the situation. Also I agree with John, always work from a clean OS and never upgrade you are only inviting problems for yourself.
Graham
Graham
Posted 20/11/2009 - 12:29
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Shaky wrote:
Well there are several different flavours of Windows 7, which might be causing results to vary.
But on reflection I also recently saw something about Firefox implementing enhanced security features due to a large number of insecure flash installations causing browser vulnerabilities.
As such an out of date flash installation could conceivably be the problem and it might be worth downloading the latest version from the Adobe site.
Thats plausible, my work machine (which is the one on which Opera occasionally crashes with this site) is running a slightly out-of-date version of both Opera and Flash because I no longer have admin privelidges and can't be bothered to get IT to come round and update it for me.
Well there are several different flavours of Windows 7, which might be causing results to vary.
But on reflection I also recently saw something about Firefox implementing enhanced security features due to a large number of insecure flash installations causing browser vulnerabilities.
As such an out of date flash installation could conceivably be the problem and it might be worth downloading the latest version from the Adobe site.
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but it does help
but it does help
Posted 20/11/2009 - 12:32
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Technoblurb wrote:
always work from a clean OS and never upgrade you are only inviting problems for yourself.
Graham
Poor Windows users, I remember those days......always work from a clean OS and never upgrade you are only inviting problems for yourself.
Graham
in all seriousness, for a Windows system I agree 100%, upgrades are just storing up trouble for later, clean install all the way.
Under Ubuntu Linux I have been unable to detect any meaningful difference except that you can't update to the latest ext disk format via an upgrade, and of course a clean install basically forces one to think about the computers organisation and adjust as necessary.
you don't have to be mad to post here
but it does help
but it does help
Posted 20/11/2009 - 23:15
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After years of using IE in all its variuos flavours/releases I installed IE8. Numerous sites would not display properly even in compatabilty mode, constant Hanging and application must close messages.
I am now using FF and have had NO problems with ANY sites, including the ones that IE struggled with.
I am now using FF and have had NO problems with ANY sites, including the ones that IE struggled with.
Posted 20/11/2009 - 23:46
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Interesting. When I upgraded to IE8 there were no problems whatsoever.
Presumably there are other factors involved that are relevant to our particular computers.
Presumably there are other factors involved that are relevant to our particular computers.
Best regards, John
Posted 21/11/2009 - 10:39
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A lot of problems with layout in IE8 tend to be its interpretation of websites CSS code or the website not conforming to the standards. This can cause the individual boxes (Div tags) to overflow onto other boxes producing poor layouts. With regards to IE8 crashing, try running it in "No add-ons mode" this can be found in your Program files, accessories, system tools. If this works without crashing, you have installed a "add-on" that is making it unstable. But the bottom line is that Firefox conforms to web development standards and is more stable.
Posted 21/11/2009 - 23:00
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Just FWIW:
I'm using Firefox right now, as that's the browser that has PentaxUser right at the top of the history list. But, that is Firefox 3.5.5 running on an XP-Home SP2 system. For other jobs I use IE, and K-meleon, and Safari (have not updated this for a year, and it does crash fairly often) and Opera.
Currently, I prefer Firefox for the things that come up fastest on the history list, Opera for general browsing) and IE for those annoying sites that will not work with anything else.
I tend to use Opera more than Safari on a Mac - really, because it seems to work the same on both systems.
"Your gas mileage may vary"
I'm using Firefox right now, as that's the browser that has PentaxUser right at the top of the history list. But, that is Firefox 3.5.5 running on an XP-Home SP2 system. For other jobs I use IE, and K-meleon, and Safari (have not updated this for a year, and it does crash fairly often) and Opera.
Currently, I prefer Firefox for the things that come up fastest on the history list, Opera for general browsing) and IE for those annoying sites that will not work with anything else.
I tend to use Opera more than Safari on a Mac - really, because it seems to work the same on both systems.
"Your gas mileage may vary"
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Posted 22/11/2009 - 12:30
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nilescrane wrote:
This was mentioned on another thread, but I'm thinking of ditching firefox and returning to IE, probably equivalent to returning to Canon from Pentax!
I've had enough of text on text, pages not loading properly and generally things in the wrong place.
The latest 'issue' (ie problem) is streaming flash videos at full-screen crashing the computer. This doesn't happen on IE.
Anybody else been through this?
never had this problems with firefox!
This was mentioned on another thread, but I'm thinking of ditching firefox and returning to IE, probably equivalent to returning to Canon from Pentax!
I've had enough of text on text, pages not loading properly and generally things in the wrong place.
The latest 'issue' (ie problem) is streaming flash videos at full-screen crashing the computer. This doesn't happen on IE.
Anybody else been through this?
Posted 01/12/2009 - 19:52
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I have now installed Windows 7 on my main desktop pc and can report no problems with Firefox whatsoever. Indeed I am still struggling to understand the astonishing performance improvement I am seeing with Win 7.
One of the reasons I stuck with XP x64 for so long was that I use an aging financial analysis application that wasn’t supported under Vista; basically a tarted up 16-bit program but one that does a job I need.
However, it is both fragile and slow and once launched your really shouldn’t touch the mouse or keyboard at all otherwise it is liable to crash, which is highly inconvenient given the lengthy start up period needed to churn through a bunch of calculations.
For comparison purposes I used to run it under XP Pro on an Intel P4 early this decade, where the start-up time was around 35-40mins. My current laptop has a Core2Duo T7400 and the start up time on that is around 20mins. My main desktop now has an Intel Xeon E5435 with 16gb of ram, and under XP x64 the start-up time was around 12mins.
Now I am running the program still on XP Pro x64 but installed on a VMWare virtual machine running under Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit, to which I have allocated 4gb ram and 2 processor cores. The start up time now is around 8mins!
Given virtualisation by definition imposes some resource overhead, since it introduces an extra processing layer between the ‘guest’ operating system and hardware, Windows 7 must have significant architectural improvements under the hood. Wowza.
And with the benefit of nifty new resource monitoring tools I can see that my CPU isn’t even breaking into a sweat as it churns through the start up processing load, with total utilisation never more than around 35%.
This is great news, because I have also successfully tested a hack that enables multiple concurrent/logged on users (google if interested). This means I can keep my family on energy/cost-efficient notebooks & laptops with remote desktops clients and give them access to 7 Windows goodness, processing power and applications (excluding Adobe as far as I can see), while maintaining comprehensive anti-malware defenses centrally.
I am absolutely delighted.
One of the reasons I stuck with XP x64 for so long was that I use an aging financial analysis application that wasn’t supported under Vista; basically a tarted up 16-bit program but one that does a job I need.
However, it is both fragile and slow and once launched your really shouldn’t touch the mouse or keyboard at all otherwise it is liable to crash, which is highly inconvenient given the lengthy start up period needed to churn through a bunch of calculations.
For comparison purposes I used to run it under XP Pro on an Intel P4 early this decade, where the start-up time was around 35-40mins. My current laptop has a Core2Duo T7400 and the start up time on that is around 20mins. My main desktop now has an Intel Xeon E5435 with 16gb of ram, and under XP x64 the start-up time was around 12mins.
Now I am running the program still on XP Pro x64 but installed on a VMWare virtual machine running under Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit, to which I have allocated 4gb ram and 2 processor cores. The start up time now is around 8mins!
Given virtualisation by definition imposes some resource overhead, since it introduces an extra processing layer between the ‘guest’ operating system and hardware, Windows 7 must have significant architectural improvements under the hood. Wowza.
And with the benefit of nifty new resource monitoring tools I can see that my CPU isn’t even breaking into a sweat as it churns through the start up processing load, with total utilisation never more than around 35%.
This is great news, because I have also successfully tested a hack that enables multiple concurrent/logged on users (google if interested). This means I can keep my family on energy/cost-efficient notebooks & laptops with remote desktops clients and give them access to 7 Windows goodness, processing power and applications (excluding Adobe as far as I can see), while maintaining comprehensive anti-malware defenses centrally.
I am absolutely delighted.
Posted 01/12/2009 - 20:03
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I am a Beta tester for Windows 7, I installed it a few months ago on my partitioned drive, the only problem I had was with my graphics card and Microsoft kindly updated the driver, I have installed a lot of programs since then and not one problem and it's much faster!
Jack.
Jack.
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Upgrades are something else and personally I wouldn't upgrade the OS and would wait until I bought a new computer.