Failed hard drive


Chrism8

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 16:47
Good Afternoon all,

I need some help please, had a complete hard drive failure this morning, the only thing lost is the programmes on the drive, I kept all my data and images on separate and backed up drives.

My question is this thou :-

Is it time to move from XP to Win 10 and will Photoshop 6, Lightroom 6 and MS Office 2013 run on Windows 10 ?

Can you also get rid of the social media stuff on Windows 10, presume its the same as on Win 7, I hate it and get to a more conventional interface closer to XP ?
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

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McGregNi

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 17:04
I'm afraid that Win 10 cannot really be made to appear just like XP. There is a 'Start' button and menu area though that can be customized, and I think it is a big improvement on what was possible on Win8. But you are stuck with the new Win10 interface, which includes the pointless (IMO) lock screen.

The file explorer interface and system is excellent, it's all very fast and slick. It's probably a good time to move onwards and upwards with your programmed though, and get better, newer 64bit versions. I use a free copy of PhotoShop CS2, which is over 10 years old, runs very well on Win10.
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johnriley

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 17:29
We've seen the consequences of using Windows XP and how the NHS fell foul of those consequences. I'm afraid there comes a time when we have to upgrade to newer software that's supported. Soon there will be new programs that won't run on XP anyway, just as Windows Vista has now slipped into antiquity.

I would bite the bullet and go W10 and enjoy its new facilities.
Best regards, John

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Mag07

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 18:53
Why not just move to Windows 7? All of your programs will work just fine; it does not have the silliness associated with 10, from a massive interface jump to privacy issues and forced updates.
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)

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Chrism8

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 19:33
Thanks Mag07, useful suggestion, the only problem with Win 7 and it may be me is that my wife has had it for some years now and I hate the desktop whenever she's asked me to sort an issue, it forces you on social media and imo isn't user friendly plus u have the horrible corner stuff.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

pschlute

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 19:53
Chrism8 wrote:
Thanks Mag07, useful suggestion, the only problem with Win 7 and it may be me is that my wife has had it for some years now and I hate the desktop whenever she's asked me to sort an issue, it forces you on social media and imo isn't user friendly plus u have the horrible corner stuff.

I have used win7 64 bit for years and I dont recognise your complaint here at all.

Would not advise the OP to go down the win7 route now though, as i believe support runs out in 2020.
Peter



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Mag07

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 20:27
I'd sooner move to iOS or Linux then Windows 10, as such, the 2020 date does not deter me. I am hoping, possibly quite naively, that by then, the next Windows will have evloved from the disaster that last two where. If cost is a factor, then yes. You have no choice. If 15 quid is not a problem for 2.5 years then I would skip Windows 10 for now.

I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to being forced to social media though, would you mind elaborating? This is most certainly not a Windows 7 specific issue
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)

Chrism8

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 20:42
Thanks Mag07, the interface on my wife's machine has loads of boxes on the front screen prompting FB, Twitter, and other social media sites which she wasent signed up to at the time and she's only recently gone to FB

Unfortunatly, not my style and I found the interface difficult to navigate.

Chris
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

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K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

Mag07

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 20:49
I can assure you Chris this is not a Windows 7 feature.
This is how Win 7 interface looks:



No boxes of any sort prompting you to do anything.

This is how Win 10 interface looks:



There are boxes, in some cases you may be prompted to setup various accounts if you want. If not, you are free to customize which boxes appear and you can alter their layout somewhat.

Best of luck with whatever choice anyhow
'Photography...it remembers little things, long after you have forgotten....' (Aaron Siskind)
Last Edited by Mag07 on 30/05/2017 - 20:49

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McGregNi

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 21:01
Yes, it sounds as if you have some sort of browser add-on that's doing your searches possibly. A fresh install of Windows won't have this. I don't like the MSN news homepage on Edge (the browser), but I quickly change the homepage to show just a blank tab.

The Gadgets widgets you referred to can he totally switched off in the settings, 'Windows Features'.

Win 10 still has the uncomfortable hotpotch mixture of 'apps' (touchscreen styled mini programs) and the traditional Win7 interfaces, but it's an improvement on Win8 as even the app ones are quite workable with mouse and keyboard, and they behave like real Windows (not swipy things that you can't get rid of).
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 30/05/2017 - 21:02

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MrB

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 22:01
It might be of interest to take a look at Classic Shell:

http://classicshell.net

Cheers.
Philip

jeallen01

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 22:09
Ref Windows 10:
- Windows "gadgets" have been dropped completely nowadays because they apparently posed security threat (edited: removed the comment about them still working, I don't think they do)
- You can get rid of a lot of the default information leakage to MS by installing something like O&O Shutup10 and then tweaking it a bit ( 3 machines here, all with that installed)
- Edge is a pig (although very "lightweight" and quick) and you can change the default browser to IE11 or another of your choice - but you might need to download it before you can
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Last Edited by jeallen01 on 30/05/2017 - 22:39

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richandfleur

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 22:20
Windows 10 has been out for quite a while now.

If you're going to the effort of a rebuild, then it's time to move to it.

Windows 7 turned out to be more stable and a bit faster on the same hardware as XP. There is simply no reason to stay on windows XP now.

It's mid 2017, and whilst yes there will be some learning curves, the modern stuff is not all bad.

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Chrism8

Link Posted 31/05/2017 - 06:25
Thank you all for your assistance, I think it'll have to be Win 10.

Really appreciate all your views and experiences 😊that's what makes this a good forum.
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

-------------------------------------------------------------
K1 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6, Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8

Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

andy_bell

Link Posted 31/05/2017 - 08:35
As long as you have a legitimate licence for XP you should be able to upgrade for free to Win 10 if you have the download disk.
If you want to try drop me a line & i'll send you a win 10 pro update disk...

Andy
A few bits & Bobs
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