F2.8 lens recomendations

CoDa
Posted 07/12/2010 - 11:46 Link
I am at work at the moment, will try to put a shot or two on here later.

The shoot was just a purely spure of the moment thing, but the same type of show could be on again next year, so would like to get it better next time. (used this years one as a trial)

Will Lightroom V3.2 clean up noise etc, as well as SilkyPix? I have PSE8 and shoot in Raw+.

Matt,
You could email me a link to see them.

Edit; Will more than likely get the Tamron 17-50mm, then sell my 16-45mm.
Colin

“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.”
Edmund Burke (1729 – 1797)


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Edited by CoDa: 07/12/2010 - 11:47
boeforce
Posted 07/12/2010 - 11:55 Link
+1 Tamron 17-50mm. But Tamron has no Pentax mount for their new VC versions.
Regards,

Liang
CoDa
Posted 07/12/2010 - 12:03 Link
This is the lens Tamron SP AF17-50 F2.8 XR DiIILD Asp IF

Looking at two will buy later this week.
Colin

“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.”
Edmund Burke (1729 – 1797)


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boudou701
Posted 07/12/2010 - 13:34 Link
Tammy 17-50 +1
Digital: KP, Film: KX, ME Super
Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8, Pentax 16-85mm, Pentax DA 20-40 ltd
Pentax 21mm f3.2 ltd, Sigma 24mm f2.8 macro, Pentax 28mm f2.8, Pentax 35mm f2.8 macro, Pentax 43mm f1.9 LTD, Pentax 50mm FA f1.7, Pentax A 50mm f1.7, Pentax K 55mm f1.8, Pentax DA* 55mm f1.4
Metz 36 AF-4
MattMatic
Posted 07/12/2010 - 14:33 Link
Hi Colin,
The jury is still out with LR3. I'm using LR3 at the moment, but need to have a hack at some of the show stuff I did

EDIT: LR3 seems to have very good noise reduction. It's a bit of "swings-and-roundabouts" with SPDS3Pro vs LR3, but reprocessing some ISO2000 and ISO1600 shots looks very promising indeed. So, to answer your question - the answer is yes! If you expose the image correctly (i.e. manually) you should be able to get an excellent image out of the K7 and LR3.

Will see if I can dig out a couple of images that I'd be allowed to link to
Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
(For gallery, tips and links)
Edited by MattMatic: 07/12/2010 - 15:17
CoDa
Posted 07/12/2010 - 15:30 Link
Thanks Matt
Colin

“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.”
Edmund Burke (1729 – 1797)


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CoDa
Posted 13/12/2010 - 10:21 Link
As I said on the 7th the shots are below sorry for the delay

F4 ISO200 1/20sec
[IMG]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad254/weldingblues/Image2.jpg[/IMG]

F2.8 ISO400 1/30sec
[IMG]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad254/weldingblues/Image1.jpg[/IMG]

These shots just show the difficult lighting conditions etc. and apart from re-size are as is.
Colin

“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.”
Edmund Burke (1729 – 1797)


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MattMatic
Posted 13/12/2010 - 10:45 Link
Colin,
Looking at that lighting you should be starting at ISO800 and working even up towards ISO1600 or 2500 (not ISO200 - that's really, really optimistic!!). You can then work at f/4 or f/5.6 with out any problems and get a reasonable shutter speed for the movement.

You should also be using fully M, without the -1Ev exposure bias.

It takes practise, but you should be able to pretty much guess the lighting change by eye.

Shoot RAW as well - that will give you an extra couple of stops latitude to play with afterwards But remember to err on the side of underexposure - you don't want to blow out the faces.

Given the uneven lighting you'll need plenty of "Fill" recovery in the RAW development process.

I'd suggest practising at home until it becomes second nature

Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
(For gallery, tips and links)
CoDa
Posted 13/12/2010 - 12:00 Link
Matt,
That's the advice that I was looking for, I will still consider the Tamron 16-50mm as a replacement for the 16-45mm.

Regards
Colin

“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.”
Edmund Burke (1729 – 1797)


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KZ
Posted 14/12/2010 - 19:27 Link
One more vote for Tamron 17-50 (non VC). Excellent value for money.
NaimKhan
Posted 14/12/2010 - 21:54 Link
I'll pitch in with my tuppence worth. I have been using the Sigma 18-50 mm F2.8 EX DC Macro. I have found it to be an excellent lens with good value for money.
bychan
Posted 15/12/2010 - 01:20 Link
NaimKhan wrote:
I'll pitch in with my tuppence worth. I have been using the Sigma 18-50 mm F2.8 EX DC Macro. I have found it to be an excellent lens with good value for money.
I'll second this, highly recommended.

Adrian
K5IIs, Sigma 10-20, Pentax DA 16-85, Pentax DA 55-300, Pentax 70 Ltd, Metz 44 AF-2.
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ambott/
sam-joseph
Posted 15/12/2010 - 05:55 Link
I have a Tokina 28-70 AT-X f2.8, and I reckon it's a pretty good lens. Built like a tank, sharp, and makes me look better than I really am.
Here's some hastily taken shots.


link

link

If you can find one for a decent price, I'd recommend it. (Though I can't compare to the Sigma/Tamron versions).
Regards
Sam-Joseph
Pentax K7, Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.5, Sigma 70-200 f2.8 APO EX, Sigma 70-300 APO, Sigma 1.4x TC, Vivitar 2x TC. Takumar 135mm f2.5, SMC Pentax A 50mm 1:1.7, SMC Pentax -M 1:4 200mm, Pentax X70
Smeggypants
Posted 15/12/2010 - 21:11 Link
MattMatic wrote:
Colin,
Looking at that lighting you should be starting at ISO800 and working even up towards ISO1600 or 2500 (not ISO200 - that's really, really optimistic!!). You can then work at f/4 or f/5.6 with out any problems and get a reasonable shutter speed for the movement.
Pretty much what I was going to say

I would start at ISO 1000 to 1250 in that lighting. I can highly recommend LR3 for noise reduction
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
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