f. stop V. Aperture value

Anvh
Posted 05/02/2010 - 19:29 Link
womble wrote:
Steve908 wrote:
Hmm makes me sorry I asked now
Don't be! It seems very odd but there must be an explanation out there somewhere...
The one who has make that line there must have an idea.
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thoughton
Posted 05/02/2010 - 19:29 Link
Anvh wrote:
thoughton wrote:
Perhaps one is the 'actual' aperture and one is the aperture as seen by the camera.
Huh?
I was referring to the changes in effective aperture when focusing at less than infinity.
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Anvh
Posted 05/02/2010 - 19:31 Link
thoughton wrote:
Anvh wrote:
thoughton wrote:
Perhaps one is the 'actual' aperture and one is the aperture as seen by the camera.
Huh?
I was referring to the changes in effective aperture when focusing at less than infinity.
Ah okay but that can not differ so much right?
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womble
Posted 05/02/2010 - 19:33 Link
Wiki strikes again.

The Av value is the aperture expressed according to the APEX system of calculating exposure.

AV 0 = f/1.0
AV 1 = f/1.4
(...)
AV 5 = f/5.6
AV 6 = f/8
etc.


I cannot say I understand all the maths, but at least we have an answer. Of sorts.

K.
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Edited by womble: 05/02/2010 - 19:34
Anvh
Posted 05/02/2010 - 19:43 Link
womble wrote:
I cannot say I understand all the maths, but at least we have an answer. Of sorts.

K.
Same here...
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thoughton
Posted 05/02/2010 - 22:49 Link
womble wrote:
Wiki strikes again.
I understood about every third word of that page

Quote:
The example data in Annex C of Exif 2.2 give 1 footlambert for Bv = 0. This is in agreement with the APEX value for B, but would imply K = 1 / N, or 3.125 with B in footlamberts. With B in cd/m2, this becomes 10.7, which is slightly less than the value of 12.5 recommended by ISO 2720:1974 and currently used by many manufacturers
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Edited by thoughton: 05/02/2010 - 22:51
johnriley
Posted 05/02/2010 - 23:07 Link
As you focus closer, the actual aperture does change. usually lenses would be designed to have a magnification of no more than 1:10. Closer than this and there has to be special design to avoid the change in aperture, which becomes significant.
Best regards, John

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