Explanation please.
Posted 19/02/2010 - 14:42
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This explains it quite well.
http://www.pbase.com/wlhuber/100_crop_
http://www.pbase.com/wlhuber/100_crop_
Posted 19/02/2010 - 14:55
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A "100% crop" means that you are displaying a portion of the photo at 1:1 size on your computer screen (i.e. each pixel that comprises the photo is displayed on a single pixel on the computer screen).
So a K10D photo is 3872x2592 pixels (10 megapixels). You'd need a computer screen with a 3872x2592 resolution to display the whole thing at 1:1. That's about the same as four 1080p HD TVs.
So a K10D photo is 3872x2592 pixels (10 megapixels). You'd need a computer screen with a 3872x2592 resolution to display the whole thing at 1:1. That's about the same as four 1080p HD TVs.
Tim
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Posted 19/02/2010 - 14:56
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HowardJ wrote:
Also is there a rule of thumb as to how much one should crop? Or is it personal preference?
This will depend on what you're going to do with the image after you've cropped it (just viewing on screen/web, or printing too?) and how good the image is in the first place. Your example looks underexposed, so boosting the brightness afterwards increases the noise.Also is there a rule of thumb as to how much one should crop? Or is it personal preference?
This is a 100% crop from a K10D with DA*300mm.

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...
Posted 19/02/2010 - 15:07
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How much to crop comes down to personal preference and the quality of the image. Some images will tolerate cropping more than others.
100% crops or views are usually used for examination or testing purposes. As we see from the example above (from you Howard), it often reveals the flaws in the lens and camera to an unflattering degree. Still it can be interesting to see the detail, but really you need a longer or better lens to get a better shot in cases like this.
100% crops or views are usually used for examination or testing purposes. As we see from the example above (from you Howard), it often reveals the flaws in the lens and camera to an unflattering degree. Still it can be interesting to see the detail, but really you need a longer or better lens to get a better shot in cases like this.
~Pete
Posted 19/02/2010 - 15:11
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Dan's example above is exceptional. So good I can hardly believe it is 100%.
~Pete
Posted 19/02/2010 - 15:35
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iceblinker wrote:
Dan's example above is exceptional. So good I can hardly believe it is 100%.
I promise! Dan's example above is exceptional. So good I can hardly believe it is 100%.
Taken from this thread.
Dan
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Posted 19/02/2010 - 17:58
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A bit off your posted topic Howard, but your image is a bit noisy, and would benefit from a little cleaning up, have you tried "Neat Image" ?
the software is available free but with a few restrictions unless you take the option to purchase. It works great even in the freebie mode.
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the software is available free but with a few restrictions unless you take the option to purchase. It works great even in the freebie mode.
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Posted 19/02/2010 - 18:04
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iceblinker wrote:
...Great advert for the lens and your photography.
It's also a great advert for a seriously underrated CCD sensor. I've no particular axe to grind here as I don't own a K10 or K200 but I'm constantly amazed by the images the sensor produces....Great advert for the lens and your photography.
Super study, Dan.
Regards,
Andrew
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Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
Ernst Hass
My website: http://www.ephotozine.com/user/bwlchmawr-199050
http://s927.photobucket.com/home/ADC3440/index
https://www.flickr.com/photos/78898196@N05
Posted 19/02/2010 - 20:03
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Thanks for the link, it's made it much clearer.
I've been put to shame by Dan's goldfinch. What a wonderful image, as you say iceblinker a great testament to the lens and to Dan's photography.
Cheers,
Howard
I've been put to shame by Dan's goldfinch. What a wonderful image, as you say iceblinker a great testament to the lens and to Dan's photography.
impotentspider wrote:
A bit off your posted topic Howard, but your image is a bit noisy, and would benefit from a little cleaning up, have you tried "Neat Image" ?
the software is available free but with a few restrictions unless you take the option to purchase. It works great even in the freebie mode.
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I was aware that the crop was noisy, but is the original noisy as well? I'll give "Neat Image" a try. Another one for the armoury.A bit off your posted topic Howard, but your image is a bit noisy, and would benefit from a little cleaning up, have you tried "Neat Image" ?
the software is available free but with a few restrictions unless you take the option to purchase. It works great even in the freebie mode.
link
Cheers,
Howard
Cymru Am Byth
Posted 19/02/2010 - 22:09
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I was aware that the crop was noisy, but is the original noisy as well? I'll give "Neat Image" a try. Another one for the armoury.
I would work on the original first, the software does a reasonable job even if left to its own selections, it really is amazing, I put everything shot above 400ISO through it before doing any other editing, it doesnt do RAW files though.
I was aware that the crop was noisy, but is the original noisy as well? I'll give "Neat Image" a try. Another one for the armoury.
Posted 19/02/2010 - 22:42
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impotentspider wrote:
It does as a photoshop plug-in Quote:
I was aware that the crop was noisy, but is the original noisy as well? I'll give "Neat Image" a try. Another one for the armoury.
I would work on the original first, the software does a reasonable job even if left to its own selections, it really is amazing, I put everything shot above 400ISO through it before doing any other editing, it doesnt do RAW files though.I was aware that the crop was noisy, but is the original noisy as well? I'll give "Neat Image" a try. Another one for the armoury.
Although I really liked Neat-Image and it was my program of choice but the new Topaz Denoise also works very good and I like it better but it's quite a bit slower.
Posted 20/02/2010 - 02:53
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impotentspider wrote:
Ah yes but you can't blame Neatimage for that.
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It does as a photoshop plug-in
That depends on how ancient your verion of photoshop is StefanIt does as a photoshop plug-in
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Also is there a rule of thumb as to how much one should crop? Or is it personal preference? I have found that too heavy a crop produces a noisy image as in going from this
[IMG]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j311/Tinywales/birdsandbutterflies/goldfinch_uncropped.jpg[/IMG]
to this
[IMG]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j311/Tinywales/birdsandbutterflies/goldfinch_amongst_the_leaves.jpg[/IMG]
Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for any help.
Howard