elvis presley
Posted 15/07/2011 - 15:14
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That would depend on the contract they signed I imagine.
Usually the photographer retains the rights to (wedding) photos.
Usually the photographer retains the rights to (wedding) photos.
Posted 15/07/2011 - 15:51
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Gwyn wrote:
That would depend on the contract they signed I imagine.
Usually the photographer retains the rights to (wedding) photos.
yes u colud be right
That would depend on the contract they signed I imagine.
Usually the photographer retains the rights to (wedding) photos.
playing firm but fair all the way
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:17
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I used to do a lot fo work for Paul McCartney in the 'Wings' days and signed a contract agreeing that copyright belonged to MPL (His business holdings company). It also stated that any unauthorised use of he images would be the responsibility of the photographer.
This is a pretty standard contract for high level entertainment people.
The work flow was that after shooting the pix, I would messenger the film to a trusted lab and when ready have them messengered to wherever Paul and Linda were. We would then arrange a time and place and go through the stuff together.
After selection, the material would go to Gene Nocon's place in Coventry Garden for printing, duping etc before being shipped over to Tony Brainsby's office in Chelsea for Tony to distribute as necessary. Thus, there was not much scope for misuse on my part. In practise, the deal I had with the McCartneys over payment would make you a fool to abuse it, even apart from moral considerations.
It is most unlikely that any photographer would be allowed copyright over something like the Presley wedding. The value is not in the pictures but the image of the artist. Presley's management would have been idiots not to have capitalised on the commercial value of these pictures and whatever you might think of Col Tom Parker, an idiot he was not.
This is a pretty standard contract for high level entertainment people.
The work flow was that after shooting the pix, I would messenger the film to a trusted lab and when ready have them messengered to wherever Paul and Linda were. We would then arrange a time and place and go through the stuff together.
After selection, the material would go to Gene Nocon's place in Coventry Garden for printing, duping etc before being shipped over to Tony Brainsby's office in Chelsea for Tony to distribute as necessary. Thus, there was not much scope for misuse on my part. In practise, the deal I had with the McCartneys over payment would make you a fool to abuse it, even apart from moral considerations.
It is most unlikely that any photographer would be allowed copyright over something like the Presley wedding. The value is not in the pictures but the image of the artist. Presley's management would have been idiots not to have capitalised on the commercial value of these pictures and whatever you might think of Col Tom Parker, an idiot he was not.
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:31
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With wedding photography the photographer gets hired, doesn't that almost automatically mean that the photos belong to the one hiring the photographer?
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:51
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Anvh wrote:
With wedding photography the photographer gets hired, doesn't that almost automatically mean that the photos belong to the one hiring the photographer?
No. The wedding photographer often makes his (or her) money from the prints/albums they sell. If the person hiring them owned the copyright then they would have to hand over all the photos taken that day, including all the duff ones, and would be paid purely for the day. They would also not be able to have samples to show other potential clients.With wedding photography the photographer gets hired, doesn't that almost automatically mean that the photos belong to the one hiring the photographer?
Some contracts do hand over copyright, but then you pay a lot more for the photographer.
Lemmy - that is why I said it depends on the contract that was signed. I can't imagine any star not having copyright of their wedding photos, or any other photos they commission.
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:53
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Haven't thought about it in such way Gwyn, thanks.
Posted 17/07/2011 - 14:19
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Gwyn wrote:
Lemmy - that is why I said it depends on the contract that was signed. I can't imagine any star not having copyright of their wedding photos, or any other photos they commission.
Yes, I knew that was what you meant and was backing up your comment with personal experience.
Lemmy - that is why I said it depends on the contract that was signed. I can't imagine any star not having copyright of their wedding photos, or any other photos they commission.
Posted 17/07/2011 - 21:32
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***Goes digs out snaps of Elvis seen queuing up in our local chip shop***
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Posted 17/07/2011 - 21:58
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Smeggypants wrote:
***Goes digs out snaps of Elvis seen queuing up in our local chip shop***
I thought he worked there???
***Goes digs out snaps of Elvis seen queuing up in our local chip shop***
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:36
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Wedding shots of Pelvis Greasley?!?!?
Oh, hold me back...
Oh, hold me back...
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: Too many film & digital cameras & lenses, oh my!
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: Too many film & digital cameras & lenses, oh my!
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Posted 18/07/2011 - 01:13
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RioRico wrote:
Wedding shots of Pelvis Greasley?!?!?
Oh, hold me back...
Perhaps he was talking about welding shots of Elvis. As he ordered his Battered sausage and curry sauce he did mention he now worked in the local Autobody shop.
Wedding shots of Pelvis Greasley?!?!?
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Posted 18/07/2011 - 09:43
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So the guy who works down the chip shop who swears he's Elvis is a liar?
Posted 18/07/2011 - 10:14
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Looking back at the names of couples at old weddings I've done
I notice one groom was called Albert Priestly......???? must
dig out the negs :
I notice one groom was called Albert Priestly......???? must
dig out the negs :
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber
Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
Posted 18/07/2011 - 13:41
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I have to admit when I read the OP I was picturing one of these Nevada weddings with Elvis lookalikes. The question might have been if we get married in such a chapel who owns the rights to the photos taken.
As for Elvis, I saw him a couple of years ago in the town square in Ormskirk, judging some sort of competition of Elvis lookalikes. Bizarre.
As for Elvis, I saw him a couple of years ago in the town square in Ormskirk, judging some sort of competition of Elvis lookalikes. Bizarre.
Best regards, John
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