Elichrom skyport triggers


theonenadeem

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 14:02
Has any used these triggers on a KP.
I will be using these later this week in a studio setting ,
On another forum , some users have experienced , delay, issues with theses triggers with pentax cameras namely K3 and K3ii .

Just wondering if I should purchase a cheapo trigger , from fleabay ant recommendations are welcome.

Regards
Nadeem

McGregNi

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 14:53
Hi, you said on your other thread that you are a complete novice with lighting and that the studio owner was setting up the lights. ... So they are not your lights?

I world therefore think you should ask the studio what triggers are compatible with the lights, that seems obvious. Perhaps its better to use a trigger from the studio that is proven and tested to work with their lights? Anything else, under these circumstances, is risking disappointment, frustration and wasted time when you least need that.
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Chrism8

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 15:00
I have found by experience, some triggers perform better on Pentax camera's when the max sync speed is dropped slightly, for example on a K5 dropping it from 1/160th to 1/125 solves these sort of issues, give it a try.
Chris

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theonenadeem

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 17:26
McGreni.

I checked in the other forum accross the pond.
Some Pentaxusers have experienced issues with this trigger but not with other brands.
These triggers are the studio owners .

Regards

theonenadeem

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 17:55
theonenadeem wrote:
McGreni.

I checked in the other forum accross the pond.
Some Pentaxusers have experienced issues with this trigger but not with other brands.
These triggers are the studio owners .

Regards

update. Not,
experienced problams with other brands of camera.

McGregNi

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 18:21
It sounds like a recipe for disaster then. If I was you I would be pushing for a visit to the studio in advance of the shoot to have a test run, at least just to ensure you can fire the flashes successfully, and figure out any special steps to take to get it reliable. These basics ate the last things you want to be struggling with while your models wait around.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

theonenadeem

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 20:03
Would you happen to know of a super cheapo flash trigger for pentax , even a fleabay or amazon , may get it delivered before the shoot as a backup?

Regards

McGregNi

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 20:11
I think it's hard to make recommendations, as "super cheapo" equipment just shouldn't really be part of things where you are investing in the results and needing a good experience. Super cheapo is for when you don't really care too much.....

That said, most basic single pin type triggers are compatible with our cameras, and there are plenty of listings on Amazon that include Pentax in the names. What type of connection to the lights is available? Is it sync cable from the receiving trigger?
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

stub

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 20:50
In the studio I use a set of 5 Bowens studio strobe lights.. I sometimes share my model shoots with other photographers. So for this purpose I use the cheapest trigger and recievers available.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PT-16GY-Channels-Wireless-Speedlite-Universal-black/dp/...

They are just manual triggers and very basic, as they have to adapt to the different brand of camera's that are brought along.. They will only trigger the flash. They wont make any power alterations, from camera. They are so cheap I put a receiver to each light as I dont particularly trust the sync capability.
I have been using them for 5 years now, with my K7, K5ii and more recently K1, and never had any issues..!!

Chrism8 advice is a solid one and just slightly drop your shutter speed from the max..
I would also recommend the Yongnuo RF-603 trigger/receivers If you dont particularly want the very cheapest.. Though I dont really see why the skyport trigger would cause an issue as its only a single pin trigger..
K-1Gripped K-1 ungripped K-5ii K7 Various lenses

Stuart..
Last Edited by stub on 27/08/2018 - 20:59

theonenadeem

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 21:47
Actualy , I have used a single pin trigger before and with success.
The studio guy said that he usually sets the speed at 1/125 , hopefully that should do it.

Regards

theonenadeem

Link Posted 27/08/2018 - 21:48
Stub , thanks for the link.

Don

Link Posted 30/08/2018 - 14:40
I own the elinchrom triggers and lights and have used them with many pentax cameras.
no p-ttl, and I always set the shutter speeds to the next slower shutter than the camera's normal synch speed with no issues.
at the regular synch speed you might occasionally see a dark band at the edge of the frame from the shutter...
this is of course not really an issue in most studio set ups...
I'm not sure if it's the triggers though, as I often use them with old vivitar flashes and other pentax units in manual mode too and it seems to be some flash units respond faster to the triggers than others...
for example my really old elincrhom flashes and the vivtars do it, the new pentax flashes do not.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Last Edited by Don on 30/08/2018 - 14:41

Algernon

Link Posted 30/08/2018 - 16:21
Don wrote:
......... at the regular synch speed you might occasionally see a dark band at the edge of the frame from the shutter...
this is of course not really an issue in most studio set ups...
I'm not sure if it's the triggers though, as I often use them with old vivitar flashes and other pentax units in manual mode too and it seems to be some flash units respond faster to the triggers than others...
for example my really old elincrhom flashes and the vivtars do it, the new pentax flashes do not.

It is the triggers..... TOOO SLOOOOW! Better triggers became available about 6 years ago :shock :.... Wake Up! . 1/400th is possible on cameras that can take it...


Paste:
Sync Speed

This is another area where the original RF-602 have never been the greatest, and the later/current version RF-603 are even slower. This mainly just means you will likely start seeing shutter curtain in the image if you use the cameras maximum x-sync speed (1/250th etc). So often you have to stay at 1/200th or less to be sure of a clean frame without shutter curtain.

The H-430 in comparison are FAST. The Canon Pixel Soldiers shown below are one of the fastest Iíve used and the the H-430 are a little faster again. So you see a little less shutter than shown with the Pixels below. (this is with an 1.6x crop camera with 1/250th x-sync).

Review:::
http://flashhavoc.com/ojecoco-h-430-review/

That was 2012 Better triggers should be available in 2018

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Algi
Last Edited by Algernon on 30/08/2018 - 16:23
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