DOF scale

Anvh
Posted 23/06/2010 - 13:40 Link
How come that almost everyone say that the older lens have a DOF scale and newer lenses don't?

When you actually go and compare you will find that almost all the prime lenses (new or old) have a DOF scale and almost non of the zooms. It's quite logical since with prime lenses it's a fixed value but with zoom it changes depending the focal length.

Has it something to do with it that people use prime lenses more in the old days and now zoom are more popular?
Stefan
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johnriley
Posted 23/06/2010 - 15:18 Link
Old zooms often have DOF scales, but usually only the trombone type.

Trombone zooms don't seem fashionable these days.
Best regards, John
gartmore
Posted 23/06/2010 - 15:29 Link
Far better to use DoF tables, there are some good iPhone apps.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Anvh
Posted 23/06/2010 - 15:37 Link
johnriley wrote:
Old zooms often have DOF scales, but usually only the trombone type.
Yes only some lenses from the Pentax A series have the scale on the "zoom" tube but older lenses like the M or K series don't have it.
Don't know how it is with other brands?

gartmore wrote:
Far better to use DoF tables, there are some good iPhone apps.
Sorry I don't understand it really, do you mean it's not on the newer lenses because there is an iPhone app?

Actually you brought me on a good idea, why can't they display the DOF scale on the back of the LCD screen? Lenses these day give away the focus distance they are so it should be possible.
Stefan
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gartmore
Posted 23/06/2010 - 15:44 Link
No, I've always used depth of field tables.

Good idea about displaying it on the screen - patent that idea now.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Anvh
Posted 23/06/2010 - 16:49 Link
I've truly never used a DOF table, if I want to know the DOF I simply use the optical preview. I'm probably just too lazy too look them up I think
Stefan
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MattMatic
Posted 23/06/2010 - 17:42 Link
I use "iDoF Calc" off the App Store - it includes hyperfocal distance as well (which is handy).

I'm not 100% sure that the Pentax K interface 'knows' the distance. I have a feeling that there is no suitable info (and even if there was it would probably be very granular).

Matt
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Anvh
Posted 23/06/2010 - 17:56 Link
Matt look at your EXIF data with the lenses with a digital info contact you've some form of focus distance.
Also Dimitrov talks about it. link
The F 50/1.7 at most 16 different distance settings according to him.
Good enough I think show the relative interesting part of the chart.

But going back on topic, which zoom lenses do have a DOF besides the few lenses from the Pentax A series?
Stefan
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AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 23/06/2010 - 17:59
johnriley
Posted 23/06/2010 - 18:14 Link
Quote:
which zoom lenses do have a DOF besides the few lenses from the Pentax A series
Lots of independent makers' lenses do - far too many to really catalogue.
Best regards, John
Anvh
Posted 23/06/2010 - 18:22 Link
Thank you John, I thought there where only a few that did it.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
gartmore
Posted 23/06/2010 - 18:23 Link
MattMatic wrote:
I use "iDoF Calc" off the App Store - it includes hyperfocal distance as well (which is handy).

I'm not 100% sure that the Pentax K interface 'knows' the distance. I have a feeling that there is no suitable info (and even if there was it would probably be very granular).

Matt
I'm using 'simple DOF' with cinematography and film formats up to 10x8, quite comprehensive.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

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