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Posted 18/12/2012 - 21:43
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Out of interest why did it come last???
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Posted 18/12/2012 - 22:25
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Pentax is not the only one of the 'smaller' camera companies to suffer this type of comparison. http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-d800-vs-olympus-om-d-e-m5-comparison-202...
I really don't know what the point is of these comparisons and feel it shows the shortcomings of the journalism of these sites/magazines more than anything else.
As a comparison I was looking at an Olympus OM-D before buying my K-30. The OM-D with 12-50 lens as a proper non-grey import cost £1049. I bought my K-30 for £379. Unless you are blind and arithmetically challenged you've got to realise you are not comparing apples with apples.
I really don't know what the point is of these comparisons and feel it shows the shortcomings of the journalism of these sites/magazines more than anything else.
As a comparison I was looking at an Olympus OM-D before buying my K-30. The OM-D with 12-50 lens as a proper non-grey import cost £1049. I bought my K-30 for £379. Unless you are blind and arithmetically challenged you've got to realise you are not comparing apples with apples.
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Posted 18/12/2012 - 22:41
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In this months What Digital Camera magazine 2012 Awards , the K30 was voted the Best Aps-c Dslr, and that was at a body only price of £499 ! this was against the canon 650d nikon d3200 and sony alpha s7.
Posted 18/12/2012 - 23:32
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cabstar wrote:
Out of interest why did it come last???
Inaccurate white balanceOut of interest why did it come last???
Lack of saturation in low-light
AF performance disappointing in low-light
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 00:35
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dangie wrote:
Lack of saturation in low-light
AF performance disappointing in low-light
So basically not picking then?cabstar wrote:
Out of interest why did it come last???
Inaccurate white balanceOut of interest why did it come last???
Lack of saturation in low-light
AF performance disappointing in low-light
I don't know how the af is poor in low light as its better than the original k-5
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 02:37
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Another reason why Photography magazines are irrelevant. I haven't bought one since 1987 and never will again. Why pay for propaganda when you can get it free on the Net? Commercially corrupt nonsense IMO.
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 02:39
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cabstar wrote:
I don't know how the af is poor in low light as its better than the original k-5
The people who work for these magazines have no special powers or special knowledge or skills. What's printed in a magazine has no more authority than any random post on a photography forum.
dangie wrote:
Lack of saturation in low-light
AF performance disappointing in low-light
So basically not picking then?cabstar wrote:
Out of interest why did it come last???
Inaccurate white balanceOut of interest why did it come last???
Lack of saturation in low-light
AF performance disappointing in low-light
I don't know how the af is poor in low light as its better than the original k-5
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 08:39
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I was taking plenty of photos in low light (dark) last week in Budapest at 1600/3200 ISO. The AF worked perfectly, the white balance was fine on auto and I'd be hard pushed to see any grain at the 3200 ISO unless magnified an awful lot.
Posted 19/12/2012 - 08:52
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Magazines... lol! mostly they list their advertisers offerings in order of who spends more and call it a review.
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 09:18
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cabstar wrote:
I don't know how the af is poor in low light as its better than the original k-5
It must be good then. I posted this picture on Monday, taken in Durham Cathedral in total darkness apart from a few candles.The procession was walking towards us, exposure detail iso 12800,1/8 sec , f3.5. The picture is lighter than it was on the night,one of the press guys who was using white lenses was moaning about the conditions.I don't know how the af is poor in low light as its better than the original k-5
I thought this was the ultimate test in low light conditions, unless you have a black cat and a coal hole
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John:
Posted 19/12/2012 - 09:37
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1/8 sec ..handheld ?
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 09:47
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Smeggypants wrote:
..The people who work for these magazines have no special powers or special knowledge or skills. What's printed in a magazine has no more authority than any random post on a photography forum.
Agree. Unfortunately these are the magazines that pour off the shelves every week. Many are bought by people intending to buy a dSLR for the first time. What do they see? In my opinion misleading tests. At least they sould have compared like for like. One camera costing twice as much as another is not really a comparative test...The people who work for these magazines have no special powers or special knowledge or skills. What's printed in a magazine has no more authority than any random post on a photography forum.
On the plus side, they said there was very little image noise at high ISO settings and retention of fine detail was impressive.
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Posted 19/12/2012 - 10:04
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judderman62 wrote:
1/8 sec ..handheld ?
Correct and the verticals were only 1.5 degrees off as well: better than most of my shots in daylight1/8 sec ..handheld ?
John
Posted 19/12/2012 - 11:11
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dangie wrote:
I really do think that is incorrect in every respect. How can we agree that someone who has worked professionally and has spent all their lives in a photographic environment has no more knowledge than any random poster on the internet?Smeggypants wrote:
..The people who work for these magazines have no special powers or special knowledge or skills. What's printed in a magazine has no more authority than any random post on a photography forum.
Agree. Unfortunately these are the magazines that pour off the shelves every week...The people who work for these magazines have no special powers or special knowledge or skills. What's printed in a magazine has no more authority than any random post on a photography forum.
I find the premise absurd to be honest, especially considering some of the drivel that gets posted on the internet.
Best regards, John
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Unfortunately the Pentax didn't come out very well in the test. In fact it came last. I suppose being a Pentax user I am protective towards Pentax (just as Canon & Nikon users are towards their cameras). I saw this as an unfair test on the Pentax. As can be seen the 'Bottom of the range' Pentax has been pitched against competitors models which aren't bottom of the range. Hardly fair in my opinion. Surely in this company the K-5 or K-5II should have been tested.
Perhaps I am over sensitive towards Pentax, but time and time again I see Pentax getting the rough end of the stick.