DA 10-17
Posted 28/11/2007 - 23:06
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I've only just taken delivery of one, but feedback will follow very soon.
It is very well made.
It is very well made.
Best regards, John
Posted 29/11/2007 - 00:58
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I've noticed it's a lens that hasn't been discussed much in these forums.
: : : I've noticed it's a lens that hasn't been discussed much in these forums.
I did a search for 10-17mm and got 45 hits here. Lots of info in those topics and some very good tips on its use. Also try going to http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/ and from the home page click on Image Data then pick Lens and then chose the 10-17mm fisheye at the bottom of the list. You should get back 33 stunning examples of what this lens can do. Also check out Niblue's and Galloot's websites for further examples.
If I fail to get one of these lenses from Santa then I believe I finally have enough money squirrelled away to buy one myself in January.
Drew
Posted 29/11/2007 - 08:23
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Drew, 45 hits out of tens of thousands isn't much... , when you compare it with the number of hits regarding other DA lenses....but thanks anyway
John, I look forward to what you have to say...currently I am enjoying my 16-50 DA*
John, I look forward to what you have to say...currently I am enjoying my 16-50 DA*
Posted 29/11/2007 - 08:50
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The 10-17 is a fisheye, not rectilinear like the 10-20.
So, at 10mm on the fisheye you have 180 degree angle of view - wider than the 10mm of the rectilinear.
The two distort in different ways - fisheyes bend straight lines but keep relative proportions (e.g. square is a square but curvy), whereas the super wide rectilinear keeps straight lines but distorts the relative proportions (so squares can become odd trapezoidal).
Horses for courses.... and it's probably not "widely" discussed because a fish-eye is something that's not to everyone's taste
(Have a look on Wikipedia and Google for info on fish-eyes)
Matt
So, at 10mm on the fisheye you have 180 degree angle of view - wider than the 10mm of the rectilinear.
The two distort in different ways - fisheyes bend straight lines but keep relative proportions (e.g. square is a square but curvy), whereas the super wide rectilinear keeps straight lines but distorts the relative proportions (so squares can become odd trapezoidal).
Horses for courses.... and it's probably not "widely" discussed because a fish-eye is something that's not to everyone's taste
(Have a look on Wikipedia and Google for info on fish-eyes)
Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
(For gallery, tips and links)
(For gallery, tips and links)
Posted 29/11/2007 - 08:59
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I've got both the Sigma 10-20 and the Pentax 10-17. Both are excellent lenses however the Sigma is a lot more useful generally so unless your friend really wants a fisheye then the Sigma is going to be the better option.
This is an example shot using the Pentax fisheye:

and this from the Sigma:

These two shots were from similar vantage points, the first with the Sigma, the second with the Pentax:


This is an example shot using the Pentax fisheye:

and this from the Sigma:

These two shots were from similar vantage points, the first with the Sigma, the second with the Pentax:


Posted 29/11/2007 - 09:44
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nice landscape !
Where is that ?
cheers
Pete
Where is that ?
cheers
Pete
K-1 K-01 Q-7
some len
Close to the Edge
Down by the River
some len
Close to the Edge
Down by the River
Posted 29/11/2007 - 09:46
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Horses for courses.... and it's probably not "widely" discussed because a fish-eye is something that's not to everyone's taste
That's exactly what I would say (probably a bit less eloquently put). The 10-17 is a fantastic lens and there's a lot of fun you can have with it. You have to learn though how to make best use of it (i.e. how you produce the pics you like and many others may loathe).Horses for courses.... and it's probably not "widely" discussed because a fish-eye is something that's not to everyone's taste
A fish-eye lens is probably the Marmite of lenses (I don't like Marmite but I like the 10-17).
Prieni
How inappropriate to call this planet earth when it is quite clearly Ocean. - Arthur C. Clarke
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Posted 29/11/2007 - 09:55
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A fish-eye lens is probably the Marmite of lenses (I don't like Marmite but I like the 10-17).
Prieni
Oi! There's nothing wrong with Marmite.MattMatic wrote:
Horses for courses.... and it's probably not "widely" discussed because a fish-eye is something that's not to everyone's taste
That's exactly what I would say (probably a bit less eloquently put). The 10-17 is a fantastic lens and there's a lot of fun you can have with it. You have to learn though how to make best use of it (i.e. how you produce the pics you like and many others may loathe).Horses for courses.... and it's probably not "widely" discussed because a fish-eye is something that's not to everyone's taste
A fish-eye lens is probably the Marmite of lenses (I don't like Marmite but I like the 10-17).
Prieni
You're probably thinking of that weak and watery stuff called Vegemite.
G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Posted 29/11/2007 - 12:22
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You're probably thinking of that weak and watery stuff called Vegemite.
Vegemite weak and watery Mate you can repair potholes with vegemite
You're probably thinking of that weak and watery stuff called Vegemite.
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Posted 29/11/2007 - 13:41
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That doesn't surprise me. But I was talking about the flavour, not its qualities as a building material. I'm glad you have found a suitable use for it.Quote:
You're probably thinking of that weak and watery stuff called Vegemite.
Vegemite weak and watery Mate you can repair potholes with vegemite You're probably thinking of that weak and watery stuff called Vegemite.
G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Posted 29/11/2007 - 20:24
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nice landscape !
Where is that ?
cheers
Pete
Up in the NW of Scotland - the 2nd shot is at Applecross and the last two are at Knockan Crag, north of Ullapool.
nice landscape !
Where is that ?
cheers
Pete
Posted 01/12/2007 - 11:56
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Thanks
Transit wrote:
nice landscape !
Where is that ?
cheers
Pete
Up in the NW of Scotland - the 2nd shot is at Applecross and the last two are at Knockan Crag, north of Ullapool.nice landscape !
Where is that ?
cheers
Pete
K-1 K-01 Q-7
some len
Close to the Edge
Down by the River
some len
Close to the Edge
Down by the River
Posted 02/12/2007 - 02:20
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Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 16/12/2007 - 20:49
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I've only just taken delivery of one, but feedback will follow very soon.
It is very well made.
John,I've only just taken delivery of one, but feedback will follow very soon.
It is very well made.
Any feedback yet ?
Hyram
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My friend who bought my *ist DL fancies getting a fish-eye lens.... The DA 10-17 is labelled 'fish-eye' and she has fancied a Sigma 10-20 EX DC but that is labelled only as a super wide-angle...
Could I have some feedback to pass onto my friend?
Cheers
Peter